Yakezie.com - Topic: How Google Calculates Page Rank

Miss T @ Prairie Eco-Thrifter on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:24:24 +0000

Tony Chou @ Investorz' Blog said:

OneCentAtatime said:

very interesting! Lets assume that Google algorithm still uses the same formula which the thesis states. (doesn't matter if they have other wrapper around it like Panda, bear etc and +1) The core of the ranking engine is still the below.

PR(A) = (1-d) + d (PR(T1)/C(T1) + ... + PR(Tn)/C(Tn))

Let's also assume that there are only two pages in this world, mine and yours. and my page has a link to your page. So, your page rank will be

= (1 - 0.85) + d(my PR/number of links on my page)

That means if I have many links on my page then your PR will be lower, and if I have only one link and that's yours, then your PR will be higher.

Now if you consider Toy's thesis that commentLuv makes google lower your rank.

If I employ commetnLuv then not mine, but your PR gets reduced as I will now have two links per comment as opposed to one link per comment. Unless Google have some other patch installed.

Complex science, let's forget all of these and focus on writing better contents and commenting on other blogs, back to basic.

Thanks Latisha for fueling gray cells.

Agreed. Understanding this is almost impossible, as we don't have all the facts. Let's just work on better content.

Agreed. Content is king.

LaTisha @YoungFinances on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:03:22 +0000

Yeah, I assume they would have changed it over the years but I don't think they would have started all over again from scratch.

It looks like the elements they started with are still there just with a few tweaks. It's interesting to read because it does make you want to focus on longer more engaging content.

Henry @ TotallyMoney on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:11:48 +0000

You should remember that the original pagerank patent must be about 12 years old now, so I wouldn't be certain that they are still using it in exactly that form. I came across this one recently http://www.seobythesea.com/201.....user-data/ saying that they give different weight to links depending on the position of the page. It is tough to attempt to keep up with all the changes Google makes. I didn't realise that Google used bounces in the original patent I will have to have a look over it again

Tony Chou @ Investorz' Blog on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:27:46 +0000

OneCentAtatime said:

very interesting! Lets assume that Google algorithm still uses the same formula which the thesis states. (doesn't matter if they have other wrapper around it like Panda, bear etc and +1) The core of the ranking engine is still the below.

PR(A) = (1-d) + d (PR(T1)/C(T1) + ... + PR(Tn)/C(Tn))

Let's also assume that there are only two pages in this world, mine and yours. and my page has a link to your page. So, your page rank will be

= (1 - 0.85) + d(my PR/number of links on my page)

That means if I have many links on my page then your PR will be lower, and if I have only one link and that's yours, then your PR will be higher.

Now if you consider Toy's thesis that commentLuv makes google lower your rank.

If I employ commetnLuv then not mine, but your PR gets reduced as I will now have two links per comment as opposed to one link per comment. Unless Google have some other patch installed.

Complex science, let's forget all of these and focus on writing better contents and commenting on other blogs, back to basic.

Thanks Latisha for fueling gray cells.

Agreed. Understanding this is almost impossible, as we don't have all the facts. Let's just work on better content.

Doctor Stock on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Sun, 18 Sep 2011 20:35:30 +0000

Thanks... the non bounce factor is interesting. I'm working to redevelop my site to provide more depth.

Suba @ Wealth Informatics on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:42:34 +0000

Miss T @ Prairie Eco-Thrifter said:

Thanks for this. I never knew this. I am wondering if I should remove comment luv then.

I am not saying comment luv is good or bad, but most of the links in the comments doesn't matter much anyway with/without comment luv. In their recent nofollow-included algorithm, it counts the link but doesn't really pass any authority to the no follow link. And the default wordpress setting has all the comments as nofollow.

Dana on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:50:09 +0000

This is very interesting. I used to really focus on Google and their page ranking algo but not so much these days. Thanks for the info.

Miss T @ Prairie Eco-Thrifter on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:13:37 +0000

OneCentAtatime said:

very interesting! Lets assume that Google algorithm still uses the same formula which the thesis states. (doesn't matter if they have other wrapper around it like Panda, bear etc and +1) The core of the ranking engine is still the below.

PR(A) = (1-d) + d (PR(T1)/C(T1) + ... + PR(Tn)/C(Tn))

Let's also assume that there are only two pages in this world, mine and yours. and my page has a link to your page. So, your page rank will be

= (1 - 0.85) + d(my PR/number of links on my page)

That means if I have many links on my page then your PR will be lower, and if I have only one link and that's yours, then your PR will be higher.

Now if you consider Toy's thesis that commentLuv makes google lower your rank.

If I employ commetnLuv then not mine, but your PR gets reduced as I will now have two links per comment as opposed to one link per comment. Unless Google have some other patch installed.

Complex science, let's forget all of these and focus on writing better contents and commenting on other blogs, back to basic.

Thanks Latisha for fueling gray cells.

Thanks for this. I never knew this. I am wondering if I should remove comment luv then.

Squirrelers on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Sun, 18 Sep 2011 07:13:32 +0000

This is an interesting topic, which actually got me to google how PR is calculated. There are some other interesting reads out there as well. It's a subject that's a black box for many of us, and the actual calculation may be some derivation of what is stated out there. Regardless, I think I get it a little more now.

Thanks for sharing, LaTisha.

Jon | Free Money Wisdom on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:00:07 +0000

Epic read, nice find Latisha! THinking about this stuff would keep me up at night. I think I'll just keep doing the smae things I've always done!

OneCentAtatime on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:57:08 +0000

very interesting! Lets assume that Google algorithm still uses the same formula which the thesis states. (doesn't matter if they have other wrapper around it like Panda, bear etc and +1) The core of the ranking engine is still the below.

PR(A) = (1-d) + d (PR(T1)/C(T1) + ... + PR(Tn)/C(Tn))

Let's also assume that there are only two pages in this world, mine and yours. and my page has a link to your page. So, your page rank will be

= (1 - 0.85) + d(my PR/number of links on my page)

That means if I have many links on my page then your PR will be lower, and if I have only one link and that's yours, then your PR will be higher.

Now if you consider Toy's thesis that commentLuv makes google lower your rank.

If I employ commetnLuv then not mine, but your PR gets reduced as I will now have two links per comment as opposed to one link per comment. Unless Google have some other patch installed.

Complex science, let's forget all of these and focus on writing better contents and commenting on other blogs, back to basic.

Thanks Latisha for fueling gray cells.

Buy Like Buffett on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:16:00 +0000

Great link. Thanks!

Tony Chou @ Investorz' Blog on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:15:41 +0000

Thanks for the info!

The Happy Homeowner on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:52:49 +0000

Thanks for posting this--I was trying to learn more about this earlier today!

LaTisha @YoungFinances on How Google Calculates Page Rank

Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:51:59 +0000

If you are into some heavy reading, why not hear it from the creators themselves?

http://infolab.stanford.edu/~b.....oogle.html

This is the thesis on Google and how they calculate page rank.

Basically what I got from this is that they continually try to improve page rank by providing the most relevant results that are popular (i.e. links back) but also based on how much time a user spends on your site without bouncing.

Very interesting reading. They talk about anchor text, how search results are retrieved, etc.