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	<title>maria@moneyprinciple on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, if advertiser insist on caring about PR we will all have to accept that we live in a world of proxies. Which means that they will have to accept the MozRank as a proxy and be done with it.</p>
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<p>Now back to doing some awsome writing! We all have people to educate and entertain and great deeds to achieve!</p>
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<p>Maria</p>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>John @ Married with Debt on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I read a blog post or FAQ from Google saying they don&#039;t even want us caring about PageRank, which is why they don&#039;t update it frequently. Their attitude was not to worry about it as a metric.</p>
<p>I know some advertisers do, which is I guess why we care :)</p>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Watson Inc on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much Rand! That was very informative!</p>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>maria@moneyprinciple on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rand. It is much more clear now. It seems to me the trick is to: a) write great content; b) make sure more and more people read it and enjoy it; and c) be netwroked (by being useful and playing nice - it is a win, win).</p>
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<p>Thanks for all</p>
<p>Maria</p>
<p>(ha, ha, I still have pretty good MozRank :))</p>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>MoneyBeagle on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting.  Thanks for the insight.</p>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 08:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Smart Wealth on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Charles @ MoneyGreenLife said: </strong></p>
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i use <a href="http://www.opensiteexplorer.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.opensiteexplorer.org</a> to find my Page Authority and Domain Authority numbers. It&#039;s also run by the same people of seomoz.org</p>
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<p>Thanks Charles for the link</p>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Matt Wegner on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Rand, thanks for the insight and clarification on this. Your comments help a lot. At least they helped me understand the difference a lot better. </p>
<p>Thanks for jumping in!</p>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Charles @ MoneyGreenLife on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>i use <a href="http://www.opensiteexplorer.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.opensiteexplorer.org</a> to find my Page Authority and Domain Authority numbers. It&#039;s also run by the same people of seomoz.org</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>randfish on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I don&#039;t know about "more accurate." It really depends on what you want to measure. If it&#039;s "ability to rank well for things agnostic of a particular keyword," both PageRank and MozRank are pretty bad (~0.12 correlation range) while Page Authority is more like 0.38 (which is still not excellent but way, way better).</p>
<p>If you&#039;re trying to measure the rough importance/link-value of a site, I&#039;m probably more of a fan of just raw linking root domains count (which is how we order a list like <a href="http://www.seomoz.org/top500" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.seomoz.org/top500</a>).</p>
<p>And if it&#039;s traffic/visits, well... You&#039;re out of luck :-) <a href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/testing-accuracy-visitor-data-alexa-compete-google-trends-quantcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/tes" rel="nofollow">http://www.seomoz.org/blog/tes</a>.....-quantcast</a></p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>OneCentAtatime on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Rand, if I am not forgetting everything, I am a fan of your wife&#039;s blog everywhereist and very recently went through a post of yours on SEOMoz blog, listing 21 ways of attracting traffic. Great to hear from you. </p>
<p>I know, you know, we all know Google PR is not more accurate than Moz rank. Still the world we live in values PR more. Till the advertisers are biased with PR, we can&#039;t ignore it for any other rank. Sad but truth.</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>My University Money on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for stopping by Rand!</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Glen Craig on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome Rand!  Thanks for the awesome work you do and for stopping by.  You and your site are on the short list of places I follow to know what&#039;s happening in the SEO world.</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>randfish on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey gang – saw this topic and figured it would be good if I jumped in. Just for background, I'm one of the co-founders at SEOmoz, which produces the Linkscape web index and the mozRank (mR) metric.</p>
<p>First off, Hank Coleman is spot on about Google only updating their toolbar PageRank scores periodically. We've seen as few as 2-3 months and as long as 18 months between updates. Of course, behind the scenes for their search index, they are constantly updating PR (Google's head of webspam told me in 2010 that they crawl + update scores for "the whole fresh web" in ~6 hours). But, the public PageRank scores are much less frequent.</p>
<p>MozRank is something we build at SEOmoz that imitates PR – we run a version very similar to the original (<a href="http://infolab.stanford.edu/~backrub/google.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://infolab.stanford.edu/~b" rel="nofollow">http://infolab.stanford.edu/~b</a>.....google.htm</a>) on our Linkscape index of the web, which re-calculates every 3-5 weeks. You can see an update calendar here - <a href="http://seomoz.zendesk.com/entries/345964-linkscape-update-schedule" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://seomoz.zendesk.com/entr" rel="nofollow">http://seomoz.zendesk.com/entr</a>.....e-schedule</a> - and we post about each one (e.g. our last update last week: <a href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/58-billion-urls-largest-linkscape-index-update-yet" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/58-" rel="nofollow">http://www.seomoz.org/blog/58-</a>.....update-yet</a>).</p>
<p>MozRank and PageRank tend to be very well correlated when both are fresh, but that correlation gets worse over time if either/both don't update (<a href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/mozrank-and-pagerank-for-metrics-driven-seo" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.seomoz.org/blog/moz" rel="nofollow">http://www.seomoz.org/blog/moz</a>.....driven-seo</a>).</p>
<p>Basically, I'd think of MozRank as a more updated, but less spam-sensitive form of PageRank, and run on a smaller web index (we think we're about 40-60% the size of Google's main index at any given time, though growing recently).</p>
<p>Hope that helps!</p>
<p>p.s. Oh - and please do note that we think PageRank/MozRank are very small parts of Google&#039;s rankings these days (probably sub-10%, maybe sub-5% of the overall algo). If you&#039;re looking for a better metric, I&#039;d suggest using Domain/Page Authority, which take a much broader set of metrics into consideration and are far better correlated with actual rankings in Google&#039;s search results (vs. MozRank, which is built to mimic PageRank).</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>maria@moneyprinciple on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I knew it! It only gets more confusing. Thanks for your your informative responses - I read the rules but it is still strange. Anyway - I have been focusing on writing and this is what gives me kicks. The rest - well, we shall see. BTW, we are working on a &#039;new look&#039; for The Money Principle.</p>
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<p>Maria</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Smart Wealth on PageRank and MozRank: a mystery</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be many different rankings out there.  My PR is 1 but i did hear that it google updates it without announcing.  I am hoping that increases in the next update.  My main goal is the Alexa rankings right now and everything else will come in due time <img class="sfsmiley" src="/wordpress/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" alt="Smile" /></p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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