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	<title>retireby40 on The Best Emergency Fund Debate</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Seems overly complicated to me. I guess it&#039;s good for people who keep dipping into their EF. We don&#039;t so I like to keep it simple. </p>
<p>We don&#039;t have much cash at home so we probably should have a little stash in our safe. </p>
<p>I have 3 months expense in a local credit union. Then all in my Online saving accounts after that. </p>
<p><a href="http://retireby40.org/2012/10/saving-account-stash-50000/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CIT bank has 1.05%</a> so that&#039;s not too bad. </p>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 08:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>John @ Married with Debt on The Best Emergency Fund Debate</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sam, thanks for weighing in.</p>
<p>Your post did raise a point that I had considered: what distinguishes $10,000 in a savings account from the other $90,000 that's in there with it?</p>
<p>I think you hit on it at the end: millionaires don't need emergency funds because they have...a million dollars.</p>
<p>I need an emergency fund because I have...nothing, and am at risk for having less than nothing if something bad were to happen.</p>
<p>I think that you are right - when you've saved up tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of dollars, you don't need an emergency fund. </p>
<p>I do think the emergency fund is a valuable tool for the 90% of us in worse shape, however.</p>
<p>This does raise an issue that I mentioned in my member post and was developing for a future post: personal finance is something practiced by middle class people. Poor people don't do it. Rich people call it wealth building or something else like that. </p>
<p>That's why Yakezie is so great: we get perspectives from food stamps to the 1%.</p>
<p>Regarding the electricity going out, I think fiat currency will be replaced by things that have true intrinsic value, like food, ammo, hard work, etc. </p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>No cash hidden in the freezer or underground in the backyard?! What if all the electricity goes out, like the TV show Revolution?!</p>
<p>I donno man, I encourage my readers to move away from the EF concept in my post, <span style="color: #ff6600"><a href="http://www.financialsamurai.com/2010/05/21/the-emergency-fund-fallacy-budgeting/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff6600">The Emergency Fund Fallacy</span></a></span>.</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 18:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Financial Samurai on The Best Emergency Fund Debate</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>No cash hidden in the freezer or underground in the backyard?! What if all the electricity goes out, like the TV show Revolution?!</p>
<p>I donno man, I encourage my readers to move away from the EF concept in my post, <span style="color: #ff6600"><a href="http://www.financialsamurai.com/2010/05/21/the-emergency-fund-fallacy-budgeting/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff6600">The Emergency Fund Fallacy</span></a></span>.</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>John @ Married with Debt on The Best Emergency Fund Debate</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I recently had a post entitled <a href="http://marriedwithdebt.com/2012/10/emergency-fund-best-ever/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"The BEST Emergency Fund Setup Ever."</a></p>
<p>The title and tone of the piece are intentionally hubristic, meant to encourage readers (and other PF bloggers) to offer their thoughts on what I got right, and what I got wrong.</p>
<p>Yes, I realize that my piece is an opinion, and there is no such thing as the perfect emergency fund.</p>
<p>Yes, I realize that some don&#039;t even believe in emergency funds (I never had one until we were debt free).</p>
<p>No, I don&#039;t think you are wrong if you do it differently.</p>
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<p>Before we take a look at the criticisms of my emergency fund setup, I&#039;ll give a quick overview.</p>
<p>It is all-cash and spread out across 4 different locations, each layer a bit more difficult to access than the last.</p>
<p>For a hypothetical $10,000 emergency fund, I decided on:</p>
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<li>Layer 1 - Cash at Home (in a bolted-down fireproof safe) - $1,000</li>
<li>Layer 2 - Cash in a Checking-Linked Savings Account - $2,000</li>
<li>Layer 3 - Cash in an Online Savings Account - $3,000</li>
<li>Layer 4 - Cash in a Safe Deposit Box in a DIFFERENT City - $4,000</li>
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<p><strong>Criticisms of My Plan</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Too hard to access all the money - [Verdict: GUILTY]</strong> Yes, a good portion of the emergency fund would require a bit of legwork to retrieve, but nothing that would affect your life. Keeping it away from myself was intentional. Based on my setup, I could confidently write a check today or pay cash for $3,000 based on Layers 1 and 2. If the emergency costs $10,000 like a major roof repair, trust me, they will give you time to pay. One commenter said he wants his cash ready at a moment&#039;s notice, but I can only think of one scenario where I would need $10,000 cash immediately: someone kidnaps my kid and wants the cash in an hour.</p>
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<p><strong>Sounds "doomsdayish" - [Verdict: INNOCENT]</strong> I guess this is more of a criticism of the planner than the plan. If my plan were truly doomsdayish, I would have an emergency fund made up solely of ammo and canned goods, not worthless bank notes. I&#039;m not sure how we got to the point where preparing for a scenario where we might face weeks without power due to a storm is doomsdayish. It&#039;s happened before, in my own state, and I think it is just plain common sense to have two weeks of food/water and enough cash to buy more when the card readers are down.</p>
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<p><strong>You can&#039;t keep cash in a safe deposit box - [Verdict: INNOCENT]</strong> One commenter said that most banks prohibit storing cash in a safe deposit box. I searched the internet and did indeed find accounts of people claiming that it&#039;s illegal to keep cash in a safe deposit box because you are removing currency from circulation. As preposterous as this sounds (because it&#039;s really no different than putting it in a savings account or at home), I&#039;m never surprised by any federal law. On any given day we all probably break a few. I also found a good article from <a href="http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/bank/20011023a.asp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bankrate </a>that eased my mind. While it may be possible that a bank doesn&#039;t want you to keep cash there, they can&#039;t know what is in your box, so even if they said no cash I&#039;d still do it anyway.</p>
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<p><strong>Half of the e-fund isn&#039;t earning interest - [Verdict: GUILTY]</strong> Yes, half of my fund, the cash at home and in the safe deposit box, isn&#039;t earning interest. I am fine with this. Have you seen the rates lately? I&#039;ll gladly trade a half of one percent on $5,000 for the peace of mind knowing that I have some at home and some in a safe place in another city that my parents can access in case they have an emergency or I&#039;m incapacitated. But I won&#039;t put it in a CD ladder or mutual fund and risk not being able to get it when I need it.</p>
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<p><strong>CONCLUSION: </strong>I truly appreciate everyone who read and commented, as I would truly like to know if there are holes in my plan. After examining the criticisms, I haven&#039;t found one yet that caused me to change my setup, but would like to hear more.</p>
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<p><span style="color: #99cc00"><strong>So what do y&#039;all think?</strong></span></p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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