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	<title>TightFistedMiser on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>If your company is a one person LLC not many banks will loan your company money without you personally guaranteeing the debt so an LLC is not much help there.  I am not a lawyer but I&#039;m sitting for the bar next month so I&#039;m hoping that will change soon.  In my state you can establish an LLC by filling out a simple form online and paying a $50 fee.  For that price it is probably worth setting up an LLC or whatever protection it provides.  Getting a business account is also cheap and simple.  That being said I haven&#039;t done either one yet.  Those are both things I&#039;ll do this year.  This is nog legal advice. :)</p>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 07:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>brokeprofessionals on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>If anyone has any issue such as this it is best obviously to discuss such an issue with an attorney or other such expert in their state.  I just want to note that generally an LLC offers protections as to business debts, so the coverage is not only meant as protection from law suits/judgments (in general), and also, </p>
<p>if you are a multi-person company and someone else commits a personal/intentional tort (such as defamation), an LLC may shield your personal assets, provided the LLC was properly set-up and maintained, etc.  </p>
<p>Even law firms utilize a diverse group of business creation tools, so obviously it likely depends on what is best for the type of business are running and what your goals are for the future.   </p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>freeby50 on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jackie said: </strong></p>
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<p> You&#039;ll read a lot of places about LLCs being good because they protect your personal assets, etc. If you are a blogger though, and your busniess is blogging in a way that <em>you</em> are essentially the business, it is likely going to be very easy to "pierce the veil" of the LLC and go ahead and say you are personally liable. After all, if for example you were to say something slanderous, well, it&#039;d clearly be you saying it. For liability reasons, insurance is often a good idea.</p>
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I think that makes sense.   </p>
<p>I think LLC is more useful if your business has debt or other liabilities.    For a  blogger the only real liability should be bad advice or libel.   </p>
<p>A generic disclaimer in your footer and avoid unfounded attacks would be better protection than an LLC for a blogger.</p>
<p>Libel would be a conccern probably mostly with businesses.   Even small blogs can gain the attention of businesses especially if your attacking them.   If you make unfounded attacks on a business or individual then you&#039;re opening yourself up to a libel suit.</p>
<p>An LLC will not protect you from libel suits.   When you personally do something against someone directly the LLC doesn&#039;t matter.</p>
<p>I am not a lawyer.</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Jackie on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>For a sole proprietor, it&#039;s my understanding that it&#039;s a matter of personal preference whether or not to use an EIN. I eventually ended up getting one because I simply could not convince one place I wanted to business with that it was not a requirement, but found it easier to just use my social.</p>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>financialstudent on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m back!</p>
<p>I&#039;ve been doing more research and reading all the info the IRS puts out. As a sole proprietor, I don&#039;t <em>need </em>an EIN. I even found one IRS webpage that said they reccomend just using your SSN. But it seems like an EIN would be a good way to keep things separate. Yay or nay? I read that using an EIN can seem more professional when dealing with banks and other businesses. </p>
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<p>You guys are crazy helpful! Thanks!</p>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>brokeprofessionals on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to consider for personal liability purposes is that if you have an LLC (and you have it for the purpose of limiting liability), it could be an example of why your company is actually a "shell" corporation and why the "corporate veil" should be "pierced" if the business accounts are commingled with personal.  There are other things that are generally looked at as well such as do you have the proper insurance/capital, etc.</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 23:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sunil from The Extra Money Blog on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>as soon as you can separate your personal life from your business&#039; life, the better. that includes incorporation, a separate EIN and a separate bank account. try not to co mingle accounts either which is easy to do with blogging since you can have all funds deposited in your biz bank account.  at some point, getting lawyers involved is not a bad idea either</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sunil from The Extra Money Blog on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>as soon as you can separate your personal life from your business&#039; life, the better. that includes incorporation, a separate EIN and a separate bank account. try not to co mingle accounts either which is easy to do with blogging since you can have all funds deposited in your biz bank account.  at some point, getting lawyers involved is not a bad idea either</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Jackie on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>My two cents on some of the questions in this thread:</p>
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<p>I earned income from blogging (and web design, originally, then later also wedding photography) as a sole proprietor for many, many years without having separate accounts for business and personal. However, I did <strong>ALWAYS</strong> clearly separate my business and personal expenses using spreadsheets and Quicken.  I was religious about that, and still am.  At one point I met with a CPA because I had a question, and he recommended setting things up separately and using Quickbooks. Then he saw my spreadsheets and said nevermind, you&#039;re fine. Of course you should get your own advice from a professional, but that&#039;s my experience. </p>
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<p>That said, I have had more than one business account. Two were due to a partnership, which of course is not a sole proprietorship. I now also have a separate account for my business (which includes iPhone apps as well) <em>because</em> of the iPhone apps. Basically Apple would not send me money under a business name unless I set up a business account, so I went ahead and did so.  I do have an LLC.</p>
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<p>You&#039;ll read a lot of places about LLCs being good because they protect your personal assets, etc. If you are a blogger though, and your busniess is blogging in a way that <em>you</em> are essentially the business, it is likely going to be very easy to "pierce the veil" of the LLC and go ahead and say you are personally liable. After all, if for example you were to say something slanderous, well, it&#039;d clearly be you saying it. For liability reasons, insurance is often a good idea.</p>
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<p>I would not have had to file anything with my state as a sole proprietor if I had just used my own name as the name of the business. However every state is likely different. On the other hand, I have filed to use a fictious name (a business name other than my own). And of course depending on what you are doing in a business you might have to file for a sales tax license with your locality, county, state, etc.</p>
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<p>Again, the above is all just my understanding of how things work, and I&#039;m not a lawyer or accountant or what not.  Probably your state has information about these kinds of things available online too.</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 07:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Glen Craig on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve never had to file anythign separate with the state but you check with an accountant if you&#039;re concerned (or your state as each may have different requirements).</p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 05:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Buck Inspire on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p>
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<p>Do you need to file anything to the state saying you&#039;re a sole proprietorship?  Also, the danger of this is your personal assets is at risk if your business gets in trouble, right?  Got bits and pieces of info in my head, just trying to piece it all together. <img src="/wordpress/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif" alt="Laugh" /></p>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 00:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Buy Like Buffett on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I just include the income with my LLC business. Since my income is already derived from the LLC, it&#039;s easier to just include it in there. I also write off expenses...hosting fees, blogging costs, software, and expenses related to blogging.</p>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Khaleef @ KNS Financial on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>sandy@yesiamcheap said: </strong></p>
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<strong>@financialstudent </strong>Yes, I&#039;d do a sole proprietorship for now</p>
<p>@<strong>Melissa </strong>That&#039;s exactly what I did.  I wound down and closed my brick and mortar and report the income for that LLC&#039;s name.  Remember, the LLC is a separate entity like a living breathing person.  Just because you close the business doesn&#039;t mean that you close the corporation. </p>
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<p>It seems like Khaleef and I are cloning each other.  :)</p>
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Yeah, it really does! Let&#039;s just hope I don&#039;t have to deal with an experience like your tenant! <img src="/wordpress/wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-wink.gif" alt="Wink" /></p>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>Sandy @ yesiamcheap on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>@financialstudent </strong>Yes, I&#039;d do a sole proprietorship for now</p>
<p>@<strong>Melissa </strong>That&#039;s exactly what I did.  I wound down and closed my brick and mortar and report the income for that LLC&#039;s name.  Remember, the LLC is a separate entity like a living breathing person.  Just because you close the business doesn&#039;t mean that you close the corporation. </p>
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<p>It seems like Khaleef and I are cloning each other.  :)</p>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 22:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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	<title>financialstudent on Time for Business Accounts?</title>
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	<description><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like separate accounts are the way to go! I&#039;ll put that on my to do list. Sandy/Khaleef, would you recommend an LLC at this point? I&#039;ve read about them and it seems the main benefit is protection from liability along with some tax advantages. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m quite at that point yet, so separate accounts and filing taxes as a sole proprietor (schedule C) seems like the way to go. Does this sound correct?</p>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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