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7:43 am
April 18, 2011
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Steven McGray
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Hello!
I've read the thread about AdSense/AdBrite ad services trying to find an answer on my question:
Which one of these services are better to be used for a "beginner" website?
You see, I don't consider myself a professional blogger, more like experimenting, trying to gain more experience for bigger projects in the future. So, I'm just about to move my blog on .com and I'm going to place some ads to see how it exactly works from the inside.
So, what kind of ad service would you recommend me?
Would like to get some priceless tips on this topic from experienced members.
Thanks in advance!
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7:55 am
April 18, 2011
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I would normally say no ads at all is the best for a new/newer site. That said, it seems like you want to have ads more for the learning process than to make money. If that is the case then start with Google AdSense. They are one of the few ad networks that will allow a newer site to run ads and they are just about the easiest to work with. I don't think any non pay per click (impression based advertising) networks would accept a newer site, as most of them require a pretty large pageview count before they will even accept you into the program. I would also start expermenting with affiliate ads now, starting perhaps with Amazon. Good luck!
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8:18 am
April 18, 2011
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The Single Saver
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Adbrite accepts pretty much any site, regardless of size. It is also good for learning about ads as they allow you to look at the different statistics, approve/reject ads, etc.
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8:25 am
April 18, 2011
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The Single Saver
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One more thing – Adbrite lets you do a payout of $10 (vs. Google's $100) so it is a good starter service in that regard.
That said, I have a small personal site that has done great with Adbrite. Meanwhile, on The Single Saver (which gets a LOT more hits per day) Adbrite has been terrible and I am looking to ditch it in favor of private ads.
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8:31 am
April 18, 2011
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Sunil from The Extra Money Blog
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google is not going anywhere in the short term, so go for it despite the $100 payout threshold. google is better at contextually targeting, hence more relevant ads and a better user experience. google also has a broader/deeper database on vendor types, whereas adbrite is limited in my experience. if you didn't know, google does allow running adbrite in parallel as opposed to other programs which do not allow per the TOS. i have both running on some of my niche sites and have done very well with each. for best results with adbrite, contact them and find out what kind of vendors are in their database. i have found adbrite to work well in some niches, but not in all. google works in all on the other hand.
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8:42 am
April 18, 2011
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Eric – PersonalProfitability.com
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I agree with Sunil. I would put AdSense on today, even on a new site, and use it as a placeholder for now. Do not expect much revenue until you start getting at least a few thousand hits per month.
I would put the ads there so your audience is used to them from the start. Do not be overly intrusive about it but have something so you can avoid the "sell out" blacklash later on.
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9:35 am
April 18, 2011
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Suba @ Wealth Informatics
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I agree with others, esp. freelancepf. I didn't have any ads in my blog until I hit a "target" number (that I made up for myself). That took 7 months, I started with google adsense for these reasons
1) Mimimal work
2) Great contextual targeting, the ads are spot on, which in turns results in higher CTR
3) Reasonably customizable. I could go to adsense control panel and block all the segments I want. Not just on broad scale, even to pretty narrow scale. For example, I have blocked all the dating ads (broad scale) but also blocked all the pay day loans (narrower). If I see a site I don't like, I could block using the url as well.
4) Reliable. As Sunil said google is not going anywhere soon. So even with a high payout limit, I prefer adsense.
With that said, it is not easy to get any reasonable amount of money immediately, so most people go the text links route. For that you would need PR, nothing else most of the time.
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2:39 pm
April 18, 2011
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moneycone
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Build content and grow traffic initially – once you have that it is lot easier to experiment with ads on what works and what doesn't.
But if you must, I would suggest adsense and amazon if you do review type posts.
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3:23 pm
April 18, 2011
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Derek@LifeAndMyFinances
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I would say, no ads at first. Focus on getting some readers, and once you have a steady traffic, then you can incorporate Adsense. Not only will you have more relevant ads, you'll get paid more because of your larger volume.
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5:06 pm
April 18, 2011
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Jon | Free Money Wisdom
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To be honest, I would say that placing ads on your site is perfectly fine. The key is to control who sees your ads and where you choose to put them. For example, if you look at my homepage, I only have one sidebar ad. But once you click on a post, then I have an ad top and bottom.
As long as the ads look clean and don't stand out, you're good to go. PT Money and ChristianPF are great examples of successful sites with clean looking ads.
Stay with adsense, you can make a lot of money!
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7:32 pm
April 18, 2011
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I waited a full year before placing ads. I agree with others that suggest maybe tossing a few placeholders to avoid shocking your readers, but other than that, don't expect much from them. You'll start out making pennies and nickels on good days, then eventually it will be dollars. Just be patient and keep writing quality content.
Thanks,
Timothy
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4:26 am
April 19, 2011
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Elle
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I would use Ozh' Who Sees Ads plugin and place Google ads in individual posts for search traffic only. That way you regular readers don't see the ads, but random visitors from search engines see it. Search visitors tend to click on ads more.
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4:52 am
April 19, 2011
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I would just echo what others say – put adsense up on your site so that you can start getting familiar with the interface and tools it offers. You probably won't make any money off it for several months (until you get to around 200 visitors per day), but at least your readers won't be shocked in the future when an adsense block shows up.
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5:45 am
April 19, 2011
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Steven McGray
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Post edited 5:51 am – April 19, 2011 by Steven McGray
Sunil from The Extra Money Blog said:
google does allow running adbrite in parallel
that's great! I think I will follow your example and try them both. everything I'm worried about is a strict adsense requirements. I've heard it's sometimes difficult to pass them, is it so?
and thank you all guys for these good answers and solutions!
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12:36 pm
April 19, 2011
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Interesting thread for me!
I thought AdSense would kick you out if you didn't get a certain number of impressions or clicks or something? Anyone experience that?
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12:55 pm
April 19, 2011
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moneycone
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FamilyMoneyValues said:
Interesting thread for me!
I thought AdSense would kick you out if you didn't get a certain number of impressions or clicks or something? Anyone experience that?
Nope. There's a lot of nonsense out there regarding Adsense. If you click on your own ads, then that is a problem. You can have adsense on as long as you follow their T&C.
No minimum click requirements, though you get paid only if you hit atleast $100.
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2:16 pm
April 19, 2011
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The Financial Blogger
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no ads are the best ads if you are starting ;-)
if you really want to put ads, go with Adsense (generate channels to track the performance) and use the Who see Ads plugin (so regular visitors get the small ad block and SE visits (who really clicks on ads) get the big blocks ;-) ).
Put 1 or 2 block max on each page. too much ads is like no ads, nobody clicks when there is 10,000 places to click ;-)
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2:36 pm
April 19, 2011
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Sustainable PF
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I tried to set up the who sees ads for my in content to not display for those who come to our site regularly.
Can someone who visits 2 pages every 7 days tell me if they see the in content ad? (not the right inner sidebar, i'm leaving that in place)
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3:01 pm
April 19, 2011
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Suba @ Wealth Informatics
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SPF, I don't know when you set that up, but I can see your ads and always have seen. I just visit via your home page which I have bookmarked, I don't know what "referer" that is.
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7:35 pm
April 19, 2011
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The Financial Blogger
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same here, I see you ads (you can't hide them from me mwahaha!)
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