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How Important is the Page Title and Description?

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7:25 pm
January 19, 2011


Jason@LiveRealNow

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If you change the title, you don't have to change the link to match.

8:35 pm
January 19, 2011


brokeprofessionals

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Another thing to consider is the "Google Sandbox."  Apparently newer websites sometimes get less respect from the algorithms Google uses, and it can take something like 6-8 months to get out.  

 

Some say the Sandbox is just a myth……but that is the same thing some people say about the Jersey Devil……..and I definitely saw that thing once while camping (maybe……).  

Hope this helps keep up the spirit in case anyone here is freaking out that just stink at SEO.  For me, it is a combination of not understanding SEO and being a new site, I suspect. 

9:13 pm
January 19, 2011


The College Investor

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Crystal, don't forget to add a home page title.  I noticed on your homepage that your site only shows your website name in your browser.  If you add a title, it adds a little more description to your site (and helps with SEO).

 

I've found the All-in-One-SEO is great, and can take care of most of this for you easily!

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1:44 am
January 20, 2011


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Page title, description, and the keyword are integral to gaining backlinks and getting people to click on your results in Google. I went nearly 2 years with no clue about SEO.

 

 

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6:09 am
January 20, 2011


Jason@LiveRealNow

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Budgeting in the Fun Stuff said:

Mike – Saving Money Today said:

You can change the titles without changing the url.  Just make sure not to change that if you edit the post, that would likely create a lot more trouble than it's worth


Thank you so much for all of your help.  I truly appreciate it.  I'll leave my url's alone…
 

@Jason, I'm using Traffic Travis (the free version right now) and am saddened by how sucky I rank on pretty much everything I've tried so far.  But thank you for the suggestion.  I have ONE HELL of a rank with "Pineapple Stuffing" for some reason…


You could try spinning that into a "special" niche site, but personally, I think it sounds painful.

Interesting fact:  there are 1300 exact match searches for that keyword every month.  If you rank #1, that's statistically 446 hits per month on that post.  If you are ranking in the top 3, I'd think about looking for an advertising agreement with a cooking site or magazine.  I'd suggest an affiliate program in almost any other niche, but cookbooks-as-ebooks don't sell well.  There are too many free recipe sites.

Maybe load it up with some Amazon links?

Edit:  I just checked.  You are #3.  That should translate to about 150 hits per month.

6:11 am
January 20, 2011


Jason@LiveRealNow

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If you're curious about what else you may be ranking for, check out http://www.semrush.com.

6:31 am
January 20, 2011


Budgeting in the Fun Stuff

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The College Investor said:

Crystal, don't forget to add a home page title.  I noticed on your homepage that your site only shows your website name in your browser.  If you add a title, it adds a little more description to your site (and helps with SEO).

 

I've found the All-in-One-SEO is great, and can take care of most of this for you easily!


Home page title?  Where do I enter that?  I'll go poke around…

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6:34 am
January 20, 2011


Budgeting in the Fun Stuff

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Post edited 6:36 am – January 20, 2011 by Budgeting in the Fun Stuff


Jason@LiveRealNow said:

Budgeting in the Fun Stuff said:

Mike – Saving Money Today said:

You can change the titles without changing the url.  Just make sure not to change that if you edit the post, that would likely create a lot more trouble than it's worth


Thank you so much for all of your help.  I truly appreciate it.  I'll leave my url's alone…
 
@Jason, I'm using Traffic Travis (the free version right now) and am saddened by how sucky I rank on pretty much everything I've tried so far.  But thank you for the suggestion.  I have ONE HELL of a rank with "Pineapple Stuffing" for some reason…


You could try spinning that into a "special" niche site, but personally, I think it sounds painful.
Interesting fact:  there are 1300 exact match searches for that keyword every month.  If you rank #1, that's statistically 446 hits per month on that post.  If you are ranking in the top 3, I'd think about looking for an advertising agreement with a cooking site or magazine.  I'd suggest an affiliate program in almost any other niche, but cookbooks-as-ebooks don't sell well.  There are too many free recipe sites.
Maybe load it up with some Amazon links?

Edit:  I just checked.  You are #3.  That should translate to about 150 hits per month.


Yeah, I get between 5-15 hits a day on pineapple stuffing.  I feel like an idiot for not putting links on it before.  I'll add a few links to other recipe posts and add an Amazon widget tonight (can't from work).  Thanks for pointing to the huge elephant in the room!!!

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6:44 am
January 20, 2011


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Jason@LiveRealNow said:

If you're curious about what else you may be ranking for, check out http://www.semrush.com.


It doesn't seem to be working on my browser at work, but I'll try again when I get home.  Thanks!

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9:59 am
January 20, 2011


Suba @ Wealth Informatics

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Crystal, you enter home page title here — settings->general->title. I have my blog name there, is that not good? That is what shows up in the title bar when someone opens the home page right? My reasoning was, people from search engine won't open my home page, they will come directly to my single page and that has its own title. For home page, I preferred my website name. I open like 50 yakezie sites from a bookmark folder and go through them, so I preferred to see what website I am seeing instead of "awesome blog" Laugh

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10:04 am
January 20, 2011


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Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:

Crystal, you enter home page title here — settings->general->title. I have my blog name there, is that not good? That is what shows up in the title bar when someone opens the home page right? My reasoning was, people from search engine won't open my home page, they will come directly to my single page and that has its own title. For home page, I preferred my website name. I open like 50 yakezie sites from a bookmark folder and go through them, so I preferred to see what website I am seeing instead of "awesome blog" Laugh


I already have my blog name in that spot.  I added the All in One SEO Pack Plugin and titled my site there too.  Does everything look correct now?

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10:25 am
January 20, 2011


Khaleef @ KNS Financial

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Budgeting in the Fun Stuff said:

Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:

Crystal, you enter home page title here — settings->general->title. I have my blog name there, is that not good? That is what shows up in the title bar when someone opens the home page right? My reasoning was, people from search engine won't open my home page, they will come directly to my single page and that has its own title. For home page, I preferred my website name. I open like 50 yakezie sites from a bookmark folder and go through them, so I preferred to see what website I am seeing instead of "awesome blog" Laugh


I already have my blog name in that spot.  I added the All in One SEO Pack Plugin and titled my site there too.  Does everything look correct now?
 


I think that adding a "tagline" would help. Maybe include budgets and other common themes that you want to be known for.

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11:01 am
January 20, 2011


Budgeting in the Fun Stuff

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KNS Financial said:


I already have my blog name in that spot.  I added the All in One SEO Pack Plugin and titled my site there too.  Does everything look correct now?
 


I think that adding a "tagline" would help. Maybe include budgets and other common themes that you want to be known for.


Do you mean adding the tagline in the title section, like:  "Budgeting in the Fun Stuff – Covering Spending, Savings, Budgeting, and the Fun Stuff Along the Way" (all in the title line)?

Crystal

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11:38 am
January 20, 2011


Khaleef @ KNS Financial

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Budgeting in the Fun Stuff said:

KNS Financial said:


I already have my blog name in that spot.  I added the All in One SEO Pack Plugin and titled my site there too.  Does everything look correct now?

 


I think that adding a "tagline" would help. Maybe include budgets and other common themes that you want to be known for.
 


Do you mean adding the tagline in the title section, like:  "Budgeting in the Fun Stuff – Covering Spending, Savings, Budgeting, and the Fun Stuff Along the Way" (all in the title line)?
 


From the WordPress dashboard go to Settings>General and from there you can enter in a tagline (in the box directly under the title). Mine is "Personal Finance From a Biblical Perspective". This way your site will show up in search engines when someone enters those keywords.

Khaleef "Fat Guy" Crumbley

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http://fatguyskinnywallet.com

http://twitter.com/FGSW

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http://knsfinancial.com

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11:42 am
January 20, 2011


Budgeting in the Fun Stuff

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KNS Financial said:  


Do you mean adding the tagline in the title section, like:  "Budgeting in the Fun Stuff – Covering Spending, Savings, Budgeting, and the Fun Stuff Along the Way" (all in the title line)?
 


From the WordPress dashboard go to Settings>General and from there you can enter in a tagline (in the box directly under the title). Mine is "Personal Finance From a Biblical Perspective". This way your site will show up in search engines when someone enters those keywords.


Mine says "A Personal Finance Blog About the Next Financial Step"…yeah, I see the keyword problem…okay, I'm changing it, lol.  This SEO stuff is a pain in the butt…  :-)

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1:17 pm
January 20, 2011


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Lots of what is discussed in this thread is all public information shared by Google in this document. It was released Sept. 28, 2010 and updated in October.

http://googlewebmastercentral……dated.html

I read it all yesterday and every tid bits discussed here is reflected with examples.

I had not bothered with SEO until now either. I'd say the above is the beginner's guide and then there are more tricks above that through tribulation and errors that others have found.

1:48 pm
January 20, 2011


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Great discussion!

Thanks for the link PIE. I have a bunch of SEO work to do this weekend. Will set aside 2-3 hours on Sunday to start with.

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2:13 pm
January 20, 2011


Budgeting in the Fun Stuff

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Quick Question:  I had Head Space even though I wasn't using it, but now I am.  I also downloaded the All in One SEO Pack.  Do I need to fill out all of that stuff again (Title, Desc, Keywords) or is Head Space good enough?

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2:14 pm
January 20, 2011


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Thank you very much PIE!

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2:54 pm
January 20, 2011


Suba @ Wealth Informatics

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I have been using HeadSpace in wealth informatics and AIO in my other blog. Both of them has exactly the same fields and if your theme already has the title, description fields, I don't know what else AIO or head space does. Now I just use the theme field to do that. May be can someone explain what added advantage there is?

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