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10:25 pm
November 30, 2010


Buck Inspire

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Hi all,

 

Thanks for all the earlier feedback on using Wordpress or self hosted.  I'm looking into it as we speak.  Another item that bugged me was the date stamp when I blog.  Do most people remove it?  I've done a few posts with it in the url path, does anyone know what happens if I were to go back and try and modify the url path?

 

Thanks again, you guys are great!

7:59 am
December 1, 2010


Khaleef @ KNS Financial

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I used to include the date in my URLs, but now I only have the title of the post (supposedly better for SEO). To make sure that I didn't break the links to older articles I used Dean's Permalinks Migration. It was very easy to use, and once I set it up everything fell into place. 

I now include a date stamp under the title of the post rather than in the URL. I hope that helps!

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9:34 pm
December 1, 2010


Buy Like Buffett

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That's a great plugin. I just implemented it on my site. Thanks!

 

 

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1:18 pm
December 3, 2010


Buck Inspire

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Thanks Khaleef, I'll look into this!

1:25 pm
December 3, 2010


moneysmarts

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my suggestion is to remove the date from the permalinks.  better for SEO.

1:28 pm
December 3, 2010


moneysmarts

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Post edited 1:30 pm – December 3, 2010 by moneysmarts


oops. double post.

1:56 am
December 4, 2010


uhnw

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Agreed – I don't use dates and appear to be getting a good number of hits from google.

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6:28 am
December 4, 2010


Kay Lynn Akers

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moneysmarts said:

my suggestion is to remove the date from the permalinks.  better for SEO.


Good to know.  When you speak, I listen. ;)

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7:22 pm
December 4, 2010


Budgeting in the Fun Stuff

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KNS Financial said:

I used to include the date in my URLs, but now I only have the title of the post (supposedly better for SEO). To make sure that I didn't break the links to older articles I used Dean's Permalinks Migration. It was very easy to use, and once I set it up everything fell into place. 

I now include a date stamp under the title of the post rather than in the URL. I hope that helps!


Okay, you are AWESOME!  THANK YOU!  I just changed my permalinks without using the plugin and screwed everything up, lol.  Then I remembered I had seen something around Yakezie, found this, and it fixed everything!  Yay for my Yakezie addiction and yay for you!!!  :-)

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9:45 pm
December 4, 2010


Khaleef @ KNS Financial

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Budgeting in the Fun Stuff said:

KNS Financial said:

I used to include the date in my URLs, but now I only have the title of the post (supposedly better for SEO). To make sure that I didn't break the links to older articles I used Dean's Permalinks Migration. It was very easy to use, and once I set it up everything fell into place. 

I now include a date stamp under the title of the post rather than in the URL. I hope that helps!


Okay, you are AWESOME!  THANK YOU!  I just changed my permalinks without using the plugin and screwed everything up, lol.  Then I remembered I had seen something around Yakezie, found this, and it fixed everything!  Yay for my Yakezie addiction and yay for you!!!  :-)
 


Hey Crystal, I'm glad that I was finally able to help someone! I have learned so much from you guys (especially YOU), the least I can do is post a link to a plugin!

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1:37 am
December 5, 2010


Buy Like Buffett

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You helped me with this one too. Thanks!

 

 

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7:41 am
December 5, 2010


Kay Lynn Akers

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KNS Financial said:

I used to include the date in my URLs, but now I only have the title of the post (supposedly better for SEO). To make sure that I didn't break the links to older articles I used Dean's Permalinks Migration. It was very easy to use, and once I set it up everything fell into place. 

I now include a date stamp under the title of the post rather than in the URL. I hope that helps!


I second Crystal's kudos to you.  I didn't even know I messed up my old permalinks until I read your message.  Dean's plugin fixed it and now people are redirected to the new URL.

Thanks, Khaleef!

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2:47 pm
December 5, 2010


Khaleef @ KNS Financial

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@ Mark and Kay Lynn – I'm glad that I was able to help!

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8:40 pm
December 6, 2010


Chris Johnson

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This is actually a somewhat contencious issue across the blogging community as there are people who argue on both sides of the issue.  From a technical perspective, though, there is something to keep in mind when thinking about permalinks and Wordpress (this only applies to Wordpress to my knowledge).  There is a performance hit when Wordpress permalinks are used without a numerical value in the permalink.  Here is why…

Behind the scenes, whenever someone goes to a link that is pretty with all of the words and slashes in it, e.g.

http: // example.com / my-favorite-sites   (spaces added so that the forum does not convert to a link)

Wordpress is doing a lookup in the database for "my-favorite-sites".  Because this value is both long a potententially similar to other previously published articles and pages, it can take more time than something numerical like:

http: // example.com / 2010 / 12 / my-favorite-sites

Immediatly, Wordpress is able to do a search for blog posts (and not pages) that are published in 2010 and again only the posts that appear in the 12th month of 2010, a much simpler parse.  More information from this link on the Wordpress Codex:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Usi…..cture_Tags

Now, I have never seen this affect performance on the sites that I run, but if your site is large and you want to get the best performance bang for your buck, this is something to consider.

For Yakezie, we wanted to have non-date incumbered URL's as well as good performance so I compromised with the permalinks by using the Wordpress Post ID as the first value, followed by the category, and then the page title, e.g.:

http: // yakezie.com / 3450 / personal-finance / budgeting / the-value-of-a-clean-room

Hope this helps!

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8:58 pm
December 6, 2010


Budgeting in the Fun Stuff

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Chris Johnson said:

This is actually a somewhat contencious issue across the blogging community as there are people who argue on both sides of the issue.  From a technical perspective, though, there is something to keep in mind when thinking about permalinks and Wordpress (this only applies to Wordpress to my knowledge).  There is a performance hit when Wordpress permalinks are used without a numerical value in the permalink.  Here is why…

Behind the scenes, whenever someone goes to a link that is pretty with all of the words and slashes in it, e.g.

http: // example.com / my-favorite-sites   (spaces added so that the forum does not convert to a link)

Wordpress is doing a lookup in the database for "my-favorite-sites".  Because this value is both long a potententially similar to other previously published articles and pages, it can take more time than something numerical like:

http: // example.com / 2010 / 12 / my-favorite-sites

Immediatly, Wordpress is able to do a search for blog posts (and not pages) that are published in 2010 and again only the posts that appear in the 12th month of 2010, a much simpler parse.  More information from this link on the Wordpress Codex:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Usi…..cture_Tags

Now, I have never seen this affect performance on the sites that I run, but if your site is large and you want to get the best performance bang for your buck, this is something to consider.

For Yakezie, we wanted to have non-date incumbered URL's as well as good performance so I compromised with the permalinks by using the Wordpress Post ID as the first value, followed by the category, and then the page title, e.g.:

http: // yakezie.com / 3450 / personal-finance / budgeting / the-value-of-a-clean-room

Hope this helps!


Thanks so much for the explanation!  I'm looking forward to seeing if my performance at all or not.  I'll let everyone know one way or another.  :-)

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8:26 am
December 7, 2010


Buck Inspire

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posts 1546

Hi Khaleef,

 

I finally used the plugin.  Works great.  Been a little slow as I've been setting up other plugins, AdSense, Google Analytics, getting a little overwhelmed with every other thing besides writing.  Been a great learning process though.  Thanks for your help!

 

Buck

 

KNS Financial said:

I used to include the date in my URLs, but now I only have the title of the post (supposedly better for SEO). To make sure that I didn't break the links to older articles I used Dean's Permalinks Migration. It was very easy to use, and once I set it up everything fell into place. 

I now include a date stamp under the title of the post rather than in the URL. I hope that helps!


8:27 am
December 7, 2010


Buck Inspire

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Post edited 8:29 am – December 7, 2010 by Buck Inspire


Hey Chris,

 

Wow, never thought about that.  Thanks for the insight!

 

Buck

 

Chris Johnson said:

This is actually a somewhat contencious issue across the blogging community as there are people who argue on both sides of the issue.  From a technical perspective, though, there is something to keep in mind when thinking about permalinks and WordPress (this only applies to WordPress to my knowledge).  There is a performance hit when WordPress permalinks are used without a numerical value in the permalink.  Here is why…

Behind the scenes, whenever someone goes to a link that is pretty with all of the words and slashes in it, e.g.

http: // example.com / my-favorite-sites   (spaces added so that the forum does not convert to a link)

WordPress is doing a lookup in the database for "my-favorite-sites".  Because this value is both long a potententially similar to other previously published articles and pages, it can take more time than something numerical like:

http: // example.com / 2010 / 12 / my-favorite-sites

Immediatly, WordPress is able to do a search for blog posts (and not pages) that are published in 2010 and again only the posts that appear in the 12th month of 2010, a much simpler parse.  More information from this link on the WordPress Codex:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Usi…..cture_Tags

Now, I have never seen this affect performance on the sites that I run, but if your site is large and you want to get the best performance bang for your buck, this is something to consider.

For Yakezie, we wanted to have non-date incumbered URL's as well as good performance so I compromised with the permalinks by using the WordPress Post ID as the first value, followed by the category, and then the page title, e.g.:

http: // yakezie.com / 3450 / personal-finance / budgeting / the-value-of-a-clean-room

Hope this helps!


5:52 am
September 24, 2012


Sustainable PF

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Yes, this is an OLD thread but hey, I like to search first!

At CPFC12 there was an interesting discussion about having the date in the post itself.

One argument was that the reader is told when the article was published to help them gauge the currency / relevance of the content.  The other side of the coin is that inserting the date may affect SEO (but then, the big G knows the publish date regardless).

Thoughts?

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7:04 am
September 24, 2012


Khaleef @ KNS Financial

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Sustainable PF said:

Yes, this is an OLD thread but hey, I like to search first!

At CPFC12 there was an interesting discussion about having the date in the post itself.

One argument was that the reader is told when the article was published to help them gauge the currency / relevance of the content.  The other side of the coin is that inserting the date may affect SEO (but then, the big G knows the publish date regardless).

Thoughts?

Actually, I took the date out for both of those reasons. I don't want readers to be able to judge if the post is relevant simply from the date, because many of my posts (and it's probably the same for you) talk about concepts which are not time dependent. Also, I usually go back and update older posts if something new comes up…that way I maintain all of the backlinks and indexing accumulated over time.

Also, I like having the keyword as close to the front of the URL as possible (for SEO purposes). As you said, the search engines already know the original post date, so there is no need to try and fool them.

One thing I would say is that if you're trying to stop readers from seeing the original publish date, you need to remove the date from the comments and the byline as well (not just the URL).

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7:18 am
September 24, 2012


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I personally dislike the practice of removing the dates.  I actually get somewhat annoyed if I can't find a date because it makes me suspicious that the author is trying purposefully to hide something.  If I land somewhere and see that the date is older, do I automatically leave?  Not at all.  If the information is relevant I can determine for myself if it's still 'current', I'd rather not have the author try to determine that for me. 

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