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Big Brother is watching….so what's next for you?

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12:10 pm
April 5, 2012


Finance Fox.ca

Toronto, Canada

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As we all know "Big Brother" struck down a few weeks ago and punished some by either reducing or totally bringing the PR rank down to zero.

A pretty solid discussion that came of it >>> http://yakezie.com/forums/blog…..n-to-zero/

Some have tried and were successful in getting their PR ranking back by simply "no-following" ads. It's a start, and it may fix the problem temporarily for some, but raises another more bigger problem in terms of legal ramifications. After all a deal with an advertiser is a legal agreement for whatever time one agrees (1,3,6 or 12 months) depending on the ad.

Sustainable PF wrote a solid comment, that makes a ton of sense and that I'm sure opened up some eyes (one that I agree with too):

nofollowing ads where the expectation was that the ads were dofollow could well end up with legal ramifications. If you made a deal and the deal was reviewed and payment was made changing said deal after the fact could be problematic.

Beside the moral/ethical question of changing the terms of an agreement w/o permission from the 2nd party it sure isn't "Yakezie like" to do such a thing IMO.  If you made a deal you should stick to it. 

Congratulating people who recovered their PR using under-handed or sneaky methods doesn't seem quite right to me.

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And keeping the above in mind, I wanted to open up the discussion again by asking:

What are you or will be doing differently in terms of advertising on your site(s) now since "big brother" is watching? Cool


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6:01 pm
April 5, 2012


Sandy @ yesiamcheap

New York, NY

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Post edited 7:54 pm – April 5, 2012 by Sandy @ yesiamcheap


This subject is blank because I think that people are afraid to respond, but I'll take it on.

 

I have always spelled out terms and conditions on ads that I originate.  My invoices have terms that spell everything out.  If an advertiser does not agree to the terms, I am fine with walking away and they should be as well.  Unilaterally changing terms after payment is, as mentioned before, wrong.

 

So what am I doing?  I've always diversified and will continue to do so.  You should never count on just one thing being the sole source of your income.  This is true of your blog as well.  It would behoove us all to learn about the multitude of ways that exist to make money from your blog.  For me, my blog is now leveraging me into guest posting on other sites, media inquiries (all turned down so far), and even teaching an introductory class on blogging at my local community college (egads, Brain!).

 

If you're unsure of how to diversify, this MIND MAP should be your screen saver and background.  Study it.

I'm digging my way out of some serious debt at

http://www.yesiamcheap.com.

7:48 pm
April 5, 2012


BeatingBroke

North Dakota, USA

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I do plan on making changes, however, it isn't because of this latest hit.  I'm making changes so that I diversify and try and increase income.  I'm tired of depending too much on one source (adsense and private ads) to make up all the income.  Google scares me only in so much as they seem to control about 90% of search engine traffic.  If I were to get deindexed, and not get reindexed, I'm pretty sure I'd walk away and start something new.  Maybe. ;)

 

Sidenote: Sandy, is that a new logo I spot?  When you rolling it out on the site?

7:56 pm
April 5, 2012


Sandy @ yesiamcheap

New York, NY

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I've been playing around with it.  Now sure if I like it or not.  I need to make my site look better put together.  The Scotch tape isn't working anymore.

I'm digging my way out of some serious debt at

http://www.yesiamcheap.com.

8:55 pm
April 5, 2012


BeatingBroke

North Dakota, USA

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Sandy @ yesiamcheap said:

I've been playing around with it.  Now sure if I like it or not.  I need to make my site look better put together.  The Scotch tape isn't working anymore.

Granted, it might look a bit different in an overall design, but I like the logo.  It's whimsical, and fun!

9:42 am
April 6, 2012


Finance Fox.ca

Toronto, Canada

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posts 120

@Sandy,

 

You're absolutely right….sounds like some are afraid to answer or don't have a definite answer.

I like how you're diversifying, but I wanted to know more about how we're going to diversify our private advertising and go about it now. Mostly everyone in PF blogging community goes outside the regular medians to diversify their incomes, you mentioned some good ones.

 

@BeatingBroke

 

I don't think you should give up on your blog if you get penalized by Google……just my two cents.

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10:14 am
April 6, 2012


retireby40

USA

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Post edited 3:18 pm – April 18, 2012 by retireby40


I got hit with the big G slap and will work on diversifying the blog income. 

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10:22 am
April 6, 2012


Finance Fox.ca

Toronto, Canada

Member

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I don't have any tips of the top….I opened up the discussion for all of us, not just my self. I didn't get punished and I'm happy with my income from my blog. Some months are better than others, but such is life. This isn't my full-time gig…it's additional side income.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "Private advertising only last until someone report your blog so don't count on it for the long term." ….why would anyone want to report your or my blog?

 

We're here to help each other out, give back etc… that's the whole point of the PF/Yakezie community.

Fox @ Finance Fox

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Email:  financefoxx@gmail.com

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1:21 pm
April 6, 2012


TightFistedMiser

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I don't think the latest Google punishment was because someone reported the sites.  Google had a widely publicized crackdown on private blog networks – putting some of them out of business – and many Yakezie sites were included in the crackdown. It wasn't like Google was just going after people here.

 

I'm also trying to diversify my income but Google is making that difficult.  My Adsense income has been cut in half and with Google reducing my search engine traffic it is making it much more difficult to make affiliate income too.  I have to find some income streams that aren't so dependent on Google.

1:47 pm
April 6, 2012


Finance Fox.ca

Toronto, Canada

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Good point TFM!

I think some got caught up in the idea of blogging as quick cash on the side with the thinking of:

"If I can do this one site, I'll build five, spin articles and rake in private advertising cash" ….not bad, but than again if everyone did that, and if it were that easy, we'd all be making cash on the side. Just my two cents.

Fox @ Finance Fox

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Email:  financefoxx@gmail.com

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11:09 am
April 7, 2012


Suba @ Wealth Informatics

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First, please remember this is a public forum.

Second, Google uses ALL streams of information. The reporting tool triggers an automatic check, that doesn't mean it is the only way they check. And manual checks are certainly part of the efforts. As Simon says, the spammer was directed to the reporting tool and also in one of the posts, a Google plus employee offered to take the matter to the spam team. I also personally know Google acts on forum posts from my adsense experience. So no, reporting tool is not the only way. Forums, emails, direct contact, everything is taken into account.

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