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Censorship Bill Has Potential to Impact Bloggers

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12:26 pm
November 16, 2011


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4:51 pm
November 16, 2011


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Is that why Reddit has a censorship thing on their logo today?

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November 16, 2011


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5:26 pm
November 16, 2011


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Nothing to worry for us, bloggers. As long as your content including videos and images are not copyright protected by others prior to you publishing it. If it is taken then your site has problem.

So far Google was only punishing them by blocking from search result and lowering PR…now ISPs would need to bring them down.

 

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6:01 pm
November 16, 2011


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Can't they already do that if you infringe on a copyright?

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6:24 pm
November 16, 2011


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Actually it is not that simple and not just blogs, even a regular facebook-sharing guy could face legal repercussions. If you sing a famous song and post it on you tube/facebook, now it is ok, but with this law it is not. Even if one of your readers post a link to something, they can take down your entire site. The worst part is, right now, the corporations have a due diligence legal process before suing/taking down someone, this bill gives them an easy pass. The bill (as it is now) is pretty ridiculous. 

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8:41 pm
November 16, 2011


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Very interesting! Will this impact the Creative Commons site and being able to use it for pictures?

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3:24 am
November 17, 2011


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OneCentAtatime said:

Nothing to worry for us, bloggers. As long as your content including videos and images are not copyright protected by others prior to you publishing it. If it is taken then your site has problem.

So far Google was only punishing them by blocking from search result and lowering PR…now ISPs would need to bring them down.

 You're right. I don't think any of us post illegal content on our sites anyways, do we? But I think this bill is just all talk, no walk. Typical of the government these days….

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4:03 am
November 17, 2011


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Someone took someone else out to lunch and it led to this.  It's how it always works out in Washington.  We'll see if it goes anywhere and even if gets passed, how much it actually makes an impact.  I'll take a 'wait and see' approach for now.

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7:30 am
November 17, 2011


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Re: copyright. If I am using photos from Flickr with a credit given to the source, am I infringing on anyone's copyright?

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8:42 am
November 17, 2011


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Aloysa said:

Re: copyright. If I am using photos from Flickr with a credit given to the source, am I infringing on anyone's copyright?

 

Yes it is. Think how you'll feel if some site steals your content word by word and at the end gives you credit for writing this up…

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9:01 am
November 17, 2011


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OneCentAtatime said:

Aloysa said:

Re: copyright. If I am using photos from Flickr with a credit given to the source, am I infringing on anyone's copyright?

 

Yes it is. Think how you'll feel if some site steals your content word by word and at the end gives you credit for writing this up…

It depends on the attribution right requested by the publisher.  If the Flickr publisher puts commerical reuse with attribution, you are good.  If there is no attribution, I would avoid the picture.

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9:39 am
November 17, 2011


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Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:

 If you sing a famous song and post it on you tube/facebook, now it is ok, but with this law it is not.

 

If you sing a copyrighted song and post it on youtube, you are infringing on the copyright in an actionable way right now.

This law makes that doubleplus extra illegal, and removes due process from the equation. 

9:41 am
November 17, 2011


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OneCentAtatime said:

Nothing to worry for us, bloggers. As long as your content including videos and images are not copyright protected by others prior to you publishing it. If it is taken then your site has problem.

You just have to remember that material is copyright-protected as it is created.  There are no additional steps required.  Registered the copyrighted material just raises the lawsuit potential for infringement.

9:55 am
November 17, 2011


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Aloysa said:

Re: copyright. If I am using photos from Flickr with a credit given to the source, am I infringing on anyone's copyright?

 

Yes and No. As long as it is creative commons licensed (I look for commercial, just because I think a blog making money makes it commercial, but the definition for commercial varies a lot) and you are following all the requirement the author wants in terms of attribution, you are fine. 

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9:57 am
November 17, 2011


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Jason@LiveRealNow said:

Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:

 If you sing a famous song and post it on you tube/facebook, now it is ok, but with this law it is not.

If you sing a copyrighted song and post it on youtube, you are infringing on the copyright in an actionable way right now.

This law makes that doubleplus extra illegal, and removes due process from the equation. 

 

Agreed. I should have made it more clear. Right now, the first step gives the innocent poster a chance to take it down. Now it doesn't look like it does? And also from what I read, only the full song is copyrighted, not a 10 sec version of it. It looks like now, that is under fire too. That part I am not sure. The main problem I have with the bill is, as I said, watering down the due diligence process.

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10:37 am
November 17, 2011


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Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:

Jason@LiveRealNow said:

Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:

 If you sing a famous song and post it on you tube/facebook, now it is ok, but with this law it is not.

If you sing a copyrighted song and post it on youtube, you are infringing on the copyright in an actionable way right now.

This law makes that doubleplus extra illegal, and removes due process from the equation. 

Agreed. I should have made it more clear. Right now, the first step gives the innocent poster a chance to take it down. Now it doesn't look like it does? And also from what I read, only the full song is copyrighted, not a 10 sec version of it. It looks like now, that is under fire too. That part I am not sure. The main problem I have with the bill is, as I said, watering down the due diligence process.

From what I understand, not being a congress-weasel, a lawyer, or a rights-destroying jerkface, you get a 5 day period to appeal the takedown.

11:53 am
November 17, 2011


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I wonder what's going to happen to all of the cover band if this thing passes.  They'll never perform again, because the chances of ti going on the web are too great and they'll be thrown in jail

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8:23 pm
November 17, 2011


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http://flickrcc.bluemountains……/index.php <- I go there to scrape flickr for Commercial/Editable images.  Then I toss a credit in the caption.  Better to cover yourself then be sorry later.

Tech Crunch has a good summary of the whole thing.  Basically, if it passes in its current form you'll have to police your commenters a lot harder – make sure things that are shared are, ahem, shareable.

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9:16 am
November 18, 2011


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oh man, i use a lot images from google search. am i in trouble?

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