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Google Complaints from CEO of Nextag

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2:10 pm
June 13, 2012


Barbara Friedberg

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Great WSJ article on Googles dominance and how it is impacting the biggest players online.

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/…..51470.html

 

Made me feel a bit better knowing there were a lot of casualties in the big G algorithms.

12:08 pm
June 14, 2012


AverageJoe

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I was surprised to see just how many there were! A podcast I like, Marketing Over Coffee, did a whole segment of their show on it this week also.

3:14 pm
June 14, 2012


Barbara Friedberg

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Yea, I wonder if the DOJ is going to check into the monopoly allegations.

3:26 pm
June 15, 2012


Invest It Wisely

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Hi Barb,

 

Do you still have the original link handy? The one here doesn't seem to work.

 

I have a love/hate relationship with Google, myself. As much as I hated getting knocked down to PR0, I don't think they quite deserve the moniker "monopoly". Anti-trust can be anti-competitive, as it rewards companies like Microsoft at the expense of Google, and that's really something I don't want to see happen.

9:22 am
June 16, 2012


LaTisha @YoungFinances

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I'm pretty sure this is it. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303830204577448792246251470.html?KEYWORDS=nextag

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9:49 am
June 16, 2012


Invest It Wisely

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Post edited 9:50 am – June 16, 2012 by Invest It Wisely


Thanks LaTisha, that looks like it.

 

To bypass the subscription requirement, Google Cache will show the entire thing: 

 

http://goo.gl/TNyFW

1:11 pm
June 25, 2012


Barbara Friedberg

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thanks guys :)

5:56 pm
June 25, 2012


Eric J. Nisall

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Post edited 5:59 pm – June 25, 2012 by Eric J. Nisall


From what I read, Nextag really is just bitching about the issue.  Danny Sullivan from Search Engine Land had a pretty strong article detailing it

 

Given Nextag’s Lack Of Transparency, Its WSJ Opinion Piece Asking For Google Transparency Isn’t Wise

 

Their whole series of stunts (Google's) really got to me until I I just had to write Looking At Google’s Updates And Actions From A Business Perspective since no one ever sticks up for the little guys/gals and mainly focuses on the SEO/SEM factors with Google.

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5:44 am
June 26, 2012


Frugal Confessions

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Interesting.

 

I was not aware (blissful ignorance) that Nextag results are only from paid clients. I thought their business model was based on showing a true search for good deals, and then when people clicked on them and purchased they were paid. Or when people clicked on their ads (perhaps google adsense…).

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7:37 am
June 26, 2012


Barbara Friedberg

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Hey Eric, I'm off to check out your opinion on the matter!

7:55 am
June 26, 2012


Barbara Friedberg

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Eric J. Nisall said:

From what I read, Nextag really is just bitching about the issue.  Danny Sullivan from Search Engine Land had a pretty strong article detailing it

 

Given Nextag’s Lack Of Transparency, Its WSJ Opinion Piece Asking For Google Transparency Isn’t Wise

 

Their whole series of stunts (Google's) really got to me until I I just had to write Looking At Google’s Updates And Actions From A Business Perspective since no one ever sticks up for the little guys/gals and mainly focuses on the SEO/SEM factors with Google.

Read Eric's article !! It is great. One of the commenters asked a great question, why isn't the govt doing more? Whatever happened to the anti-trust legislation. This is a monopoly if I've ever seen one!

11:33 am
June 26, 2012


Invest It Wisely

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I think the best way to criticize Google IMO is the way that Eric and others have been doing it. That's the way a free market works, and Google does operate in a free market.

 

I have a deep mistrust of anti-trust in this case, since the way I see it, all the vultures who have inferior products and who haven't been able to compete as well would love nothing more than to punish Google so they can expand their rent-seeking behavior. Microsoft is complicit in this, as is Oracle and others. This would be a big blow to the consumer — nobody would gain from this except some lawyers, politicians, and maybe some shareholders. It would be a step forward toward more corporatism and more cronyism, not a step back. I can say this even if I've been personally hurt by some of their actions, as I have no doubt in my mind that Microsoft or others would be far worse.

 

Otherwise I agree with holding their feet to the flames and exposing some of the areas where they've been hypocritical — they haven't been angels, either, and as a business they do need to listen to the consumer. I'm going to highlight Eric's post in an upcoming weekend reading. The IT world is not captive; even those who believe that Microsoft is or was an evil monopoly will be shocked to learn how irrelevant they will be in 5 to 10 years from now, and maybe they'll understand more why they would push so hard to expand their rent-seeking today.

2:45 pm
June 26, 2012


Eric J. Nisall

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Unfortunately, it's not really a monopoly as Google isn't going around buying the competition or trying to limit any competition.  Rather, the people are the ones that made it as big as it is today.  There are still plenty of choices for search, mail, storage, etc. but between the ease of having everything under one roof and the hassle of switching I'm guessing people would rather maintain the status quo. 

 

I may be wrong, but I also think the fact that it doesn't charge for any of it's services on the basic levels makes it exempt fro the anti-trust issue.  There is no forcing of purchases due to lack of competition or abuse of competitive imbalance.

 

I just think that there is a whole lot more to the issues that are brought up than simple search results and advertising.  I guess because it's an internet thing that some real-world business practices are deemed bad/wrong, or that a company can set ground rules for others to follow, yet breaking those rules itself.  Perhaps I'm just being naive.  I don't know.  

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10:27 am
June 29, 2012


Barbara Friedberg

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http://www.justice.gov/atr/pub…..apter2.pdf

Here's a link to the government anti trust documentation. It's a complicated issue that would require quite a bit of research to analyze. 

 

A UK paper has an interesting article about Google as a Monopoly; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci…..ds-newsxml

 

Infor Graphic Exploring the question, is Google a Monopoly

http://www.scores.org/graphics/monopoly/

 

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