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6:48 pm February 1, 2011
| martin
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Hey guys,
I just wanted to open up a discussion of adsense. Do you feel that it's worth it? I personally find that it takes up too much prime real estate on my blog and doesn't compensate me as well as I would like it to. I've been considering getting rid of adsense lately. What do you think about this?
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6:59 pm February 1, 2011
| Derek@LifeAndMyFinances
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Since I do not yet have sponsored ads on my site, I'm keeping Adsense. It really doesn't make me much money for now, but I think once I improve my SEO, I will get more first time visitors, which will increase my Adsense earnings.
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7:01 pm February 1, 2011
| Jaymus (RealizedReturns)
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Funny to see this. I just finished adding adsense to my site all of 5 minutes ago. It is my first and only advertising.. I guess I'll see how it goes for a while.. not expecting riches or anything. Just put some text ads in the sidebar, wasn't too craft about it.
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7:09 pm February 1, 2011
| Suba @ Wealth Informatics
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Post edited 7:09 pm – February 1, 2011 by Suba @ Wealth Informatics
I would love to get rid of adsense; at least remove partially if not entirely. But I don't have any other source of income. It is either adsense or direct ad sales (not textlinks). I still have not figured out a way to get company pay for my space/ lucky enough to be contacted. If you have advertisers contacting you, I guess it would definitely make more sense to diversify. I would love to add some different streams of income to my blog. Any one has any pointers on how to make that magic happen? How do you get direct ads?
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8:02 pm February 1, 2011
| My Personal Finance Journey
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Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:
I would love to get rid of adsense; at least remove partially if not entirely. But I don't have any other source of income. It is either adsense or direct ad sales (not textlinks). I still have not figured out a way to get company pay for my space/ lucky enough to be contacted. If you have advertisers contacting you, I guess it would definitely make more sense to diversify. I would love to add some different streams of income to my blog. Any one has any pointers on how to make that magic happen? How do you get direct ads?
I haven't made a ton of money off my blog so far, but 90% of the revenue I have made has been from being contacted directly by advertisers or being involved in Yakezie campaigns. Adsense only contributes 10%.
I think one of the keys to getting contacted directly is to be accessible (i.e have a contact page, an advertising page, and a guest writers page).
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5:54 am February 2, 2011
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at like $93.00 since July of last year…sooooo close to that first payout!!! Woohoo!!!
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5:59 am February 2, 2011
| JT_McGee
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Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:
I would love to get rid of adsense; at least remove partially if not entirely. But I don't have any other source of income. It is either adsense or direct ad sales (not textlinks). I still have not figured out a way to get company pay for my space/ lucky enough to be contacted. If you have advertisers contacting you, I guess it would definitely make more sense to diversify. I would love to add some different streams of income to my blog. Any one has any pointers on how to make that magic happen? How do you get direct ads?
Advertisers beget advertisers. Get one, you'll then have ten. Everyone wants to put their ad where their competition is.
I have a site in another (financial-related) niche that went 2 years without sponsorship. Then, one day I got an email and sold a 160x600 skyscraper for $15 CPM. Fast forward through a few companies and its up to $30 CPM, and they renew each and every month…
I'm a little so-so on adsense. I use it on a number of sites, but sometimes I think it's…well, ugly as sin. I'm picky, though, and some are sure to disagree with me. I think it almost gives off a vibe of lacking credibility, since most of the "big names" have like 20 125x125 private sponsorship placements. That's just me…and I'm super critical. LOL
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6:09 am February 2, 2011
| JT_McGee
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I should have mentioned…don't ever think that any company is too big to go after. A lot of huge companies (I'm speaking mostly about the finance space–it's the one I know best) have a literal army of people to break down their marketing numbers, sign paperwork, and get ads placed.
They're not afraid to bite on $100-200 agreements, especially if it means they score a great advertising position on a blog with a reasonable amount of consumer/buyer influence. Don't be afraid to pitch them, either.
The larger companies are your best customer. They just want to hit numbers, they don't need any handholding, nor do they expect a Christmas card in mid-December. Plus, they're usually willing to pay a premium. What's better than that?
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8:00 am February 2, 2011
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I don't make a ton of money from AdSense, but it is legit and easy to install across multiple sites. Just play with the ad position (read more on Problogger and similar sites) until you find your best formula. I am about to get my 3rd payout.
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8:45 am February 2, 2011
| Glen Craig
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Haven't considered it. I'd have to be making a lot more off other ad revenues to consider dropping Adsense.
But it has to work for your site. Some sites aren't as well suited for Adsense (not saying yours isn't MD, just sayin').
Also, if I had a product of my own to sell I might consider limiting or removing adsense.
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9:02 am February 2, 2011
| Mike – Saving Money Today
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Not a chance. My AdSense income has been steadily rising each month and it's an integral part of my long term plans.
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10:00 am February 2, 2011
| moneysmarts
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I could never remove adsense, I make a pretty decent income from google. It more than paid my mortgage last year. :) I think it all comes down to your content, and whether or not it converts well for adsense. Some content does really well, other types of content don't do as well and can take months or years to get payout. It's also key to get good placement for your google ads, and make sure the ad position is optimal -where people are likely to see and click on them.
It took me 3 months to get payout on my first site, and I've had payout every month since then for over 2 years. Smart On Money I hit the payout in the second month (since i had a better idea of how to do it), and I've hit it every month since.
So I say if it isn't performing well for you, it may be time to consider why it isn't doing well.. could be a combination of
- content
- seo considerations
- ad placement
- other?
Good luck!
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10:16 am February 2, 2011
| Suba @ Wealth Informatics
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@JT Thanks for the info. For that first ad, did you contact the advertiser or did they come to you?
@everyone who has private ad space. Do you contact that advertiser? If so, how do you approach them?
I agree adsense is not for everyone. Some content converts well, some doesn't. But right now, that is my only source of (small) income. So it is not going anywhere
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10:32 am February 2, 2011
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I use adsense on every site but my main one. I like the way that it can help contribute money to sites that aren't bringing in much income/
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10:35 am February 2, 2011
| JT_McGee
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Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:
@JT Thanks for the info. For that first ad, did you contact the advertiser or did they come to you?
@everyone who has private ad space. Do you contact that advertiser? If so, how do you approach them?
I agree adsense is not for everyone. Some content converts well, some doesn't. But right now, that is my only source of (small) income. So it is not going anywhere
The advertiser reached me through an email that was on my whois. Interesting approach, considering I have a contact page…
After that I just slowly raised rates on them as time went on. I always look for a renewal one month before the contract is up. If they don't renew, I fire up my promotion machine. As for pitching them, just put together an attractive media packet.
Make it easy to read, and a nice design goes a long way, as well. Include relevant stats, but not too much that you dilute the single large line-items.
Some really important elements are any media mentions, Alexa rank (if attractive), links in (if attractive), as well as demographics and traffic sources. Try to center around a particular niche, if possible. If, for example, most of your traffic is made up of people looking for introductory articles on IRAs, you could make a pitch to a brokerage firm and make note that these are people who probably don't have an IRA yet.
Since many of your visitors don't have an account, brokerage firm X could really build an equity position in this key demographic!
See what I mean?
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10:46 am February 2, 2011
| Tim
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Frugal Confessions said:
at like $93.00 since July of last year…sooooo close to that first payout!!! Woohoo!!!
I hear ya Amanda! I'm sitting at $30.50 and it's moving at a snail's pace :)
I'm keeping adsense up until I have other advertisers to fill the space.
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11:06 am February 2, 2011
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I don't use Adsense on Tight Fisted Miser but I use it on my other sites. It hasn't performed well on TFM so I use that space for affiliate ads instead which bring in more money although it isn't as steady as Adsense.
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12:46 pm February 2, 2011
| retireby40
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I've been putting off adsense, I guess it's time to add it to my blog.
Good discussion!
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1:34 pm February 2, 2011
| financialstudent
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I have no plans to let it go. I'm finally starting to see it inch up. I've made $16 since January 1st, but I have hopes for growth.
One thing I don't see people discuss a lot is the number of visitors needed to make Adsense worth it. I'm getting approx. 30-60 visitors per day and one or 2 clicks a week. I've heard that to really make payout consistently, you need 100 visitors/day. Any thoughts on this?
Text link ads are great in the sense that you get a lot of money up front for little work, but they're crazy inconsistent. I sold my first TLA in May of 2010, 5 months after I launched. I didn't sell another one until August. I sold my 3rd one just recently in December. And my fourth one just happened in the last few weeks. But I might not sell another one until July. You just don't know. And while the pace is picking up, you can only go so far with TLAs. I don't want my site cluttered with them.
I'd much prefer the stability of consistent payments from Google. I know there's the risk of Google dropping you from search or signifcantly decreasing your traffic, but I think most of those problems are temporary. Traffic usually rebounds.
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3:21 pm February 2, 2011
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We have some Amazon links since mid Dec: total money – $0
Lending Club affiliate link: total money – $0
Google Adsense since we started Nov 20:
Nov: $0.16
Dec: $7.52
Jan: $20.39
Feb: $0.02
Total: $28.08
Can't see why we'd get rid of our only revenue stream.
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