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6:45 pm August 6, 2012
| Club Thrifty
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Hey all,
Have any of you formally incorporated your blog into an S-Corp or LLC? If so, when did you do it? Also, why did you decide to do so?
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8:01 pm August 6, 2012
| Wayne
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My LLC has owned my blog since day one. The tax benefits of running a small business are great.
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7:48 am August 7, 2012
| Invest It Wisely
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In Canada, incorporation is a little bit more complicated than just registering an LLC as I understand things, so while I haven't done this in the past, I did open a corporation for my app development business, and I just put everything under the same umbrella. Agreed about the tax benefits, though at the same time there are tax implications if you want to take the money out of the company. ;)
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2:56 pm August 7, 2012
| MoneyIsTheRoot
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Im in Michigan…I incorporated about 6 months into blogging… it was beneficial during tax time, and not expensive nor difficult in my state to incorporate. Not to mention the liability shifts to the LLC, though some would argue otherwise.
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3:55 pm August 7, 2012
| Carvin @Rule Your Wallet
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I incorporated mine into an LLC around month 3. Mainly for tax reasons, but I the liability shift gives me some piece of mind. Total cost $125.
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4:31 pm August 7, 2012
| The College Investor
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Rule Your Wallet said:
I incorporated mine into an LLC around month 3. Mainly for tax reasons, but I the liability shift gives me some piece of mind. Total cost $125.
Yes and no about the liability. You are still the author, so you are liable about what you write. The LLC could protect you on some fronts – like possibly copyright of images infringement. Just realize that you are not fully protected.
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5:12 pm August 7, 2012
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Does anyone know of or have any of you written a post on the tax benefits of forming an LLC? This thread has me curious now…
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6:39 pm August 7, 2012
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20s Finances said:
Does anyone know of or have any of you written a post on the tax benefits of forming an LLC? This thread has me curious now…
i know a few yakezie wrote about it awhile back…. I believe JT @ Money Mamba maybe? Speaking of which I havent seen him around in quite some time, hope all is well.
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7:27 pm August 7, 2012
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Does anybody know the answer to this: Assuming that I form an LLC, could my internet service at my house be written off as a business expense? Would service have to be billed by the provider in the LLC's name?
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7:54 pm August 7, 2012
| Edward Antrobus
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I haven't yet, but plan on it. Not just for my blog but for all of my online endeavours. Just put it under one big umbrella.
Club Thrifty said:
Does anybody know the answer to this: Assuming that I form an LLC, could my internet service at my house be written off as a business expense? Would service have to be billed by the provider in the LLC's name?
My understanding of tax law is that you can only write off the percentage of an expense that actually applies to the business. A more common example is a home office. If you have a room in your house used EXCLUSIVELY for business purposes and that room comprises 5% of the total square footage of the house, then you can write off as a business expense 5% of your mortgage/rent.
While theoretically possible, I doubt the lRS would be sympathetic to the claim with internet service.
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5:58 am August 8, 2012
| Ted Jenkin @ YourSmartMoneyMoves
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20s Finances said:
Does anyone know of or have any of you written a post on the tax benefits of forming an LLC? This thread has me curious now…
I have written several article in the past that relate to this – feel free to message me with any questions:
Forming the Side-Business: Tax Benefits – LLC, S-Corp, or C-Corp?
Your Limited Liability Company (LLC) – should you choose to be taxed as an S-Corporation?
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7:25 am August 8, 2012
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Best article I can find on the topic (and a great read):
http://www.smartbloggerz.com/2…..to-an-llc/
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7:58 am August 8, 2012
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I've been meaning to do it, but I was too busy. I need to learn more about the tax benefits too.
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8:25 am August 8, 2012
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Edward Antrobus said:
I haven't yet, but plan on it. Not just for my blog but for all of my online endeavours. Just put it under one big umbrella.
Club Thrifty said:
Does anybody know the answer to this: Assuming that I form an LLC, could my internet service at my house be written off as a business expense? Would service have to be billed by the provider in the LLC's name?
My understanding of tax law is that you can only write off the percentage of an expense that actually applies to the business. A more common example is a home office. If you have a room in your house used EXCLUSIVELY for business purposes and that room comprises 5% of the total square footage of the house, then you can write off as a business expense 5% of your mortgage/rent.
While theoretically possible, I doubt the lRS would be sympathetic to the claim with internet service.
Internet service is right there as well! Not to mention any and all utility payments. Just as you stated the percentage of square footage, the same applies to all of your bills. Now, I wouldnt buy new windows for the house and then write that off, but then again, the office does have two windows in it… so im curious, maybe im missing out on something like that and it can be claimed…id luv to hear from a tax expert here that would know?
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8:29 am August 8, 2012
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It's kind of funny – I was typing out a reply to this last night with all the reasons I decided to remain a sole proprietor, and the phone rang so I never finished. As of this morning, Nuts and Bolts Media is now a LLC!
I went to the courthouse to file an assumed name form/DBA for the sole proprietorship, and it's a long story but the form (while required for sole proprietors) doesn't have a box to check "sole proprietor." The county clerk said it has to be an error, but after sitting on hold with the Secretary of State for about 30 minutes, I decided to just go ahead and do the LLC.
So a blog post will be forthcoming – right now I'm too busy freaking out and researching all the changes to my taxes!
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8:34 am August 8, 2012
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Interesting thread! I'll likely confirm with an accountant before I sent anything in, but while I'm not going to try to deduct my mortgage payments or anything like that, my internet usage is primarily related to business, as are my cell phone expenses. In the end these items are not big huge-writeoffs, but it does help out. I get the most savings from paying myself less salary, since payroll taxes are 30% at anything higher than minimum wage, while business tax is 19%.
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9:13 am August 8, 2012
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Invest It Wisely said:
I get the most savings from paying myself less salary, since payroll taxes are 30% at anything higher than minimum wage, while business tax is 19%.
Are you LLC, S-Corp, or C-Corp? It was my understanding that LLC and S-Corp were taxed as individual income rather than business rate. Am I missing something there?
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9:20 am August 8, 2012
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Post edited 9:22 am – August 8, 2012 by Club Thrifty
BTW – I think this is the link SeeDebtRun was meaning to post. His wasn't working when I tried it out.
http://bit.ly/bDfSTH
Please correct me if I'm wrong on that.
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10:24 am August 8, 2012
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Invest It Wisely said:
Interesting thread! I'll likely confirm with an accountant before I sent anything in, but while I'm not going to try to deduct my mortgage payments or anything like that, my internet usage is primarily related to business, as are my cell phone expenses. In the end these items are not big huge-writeoffs, but it does help out. I get the most savings from paying myself less salary, since payroll taxes are 30% at anything higher than minimum wage, while business tax is 19%.
While odds are that you already deduct your mortgage interest expense at tax time on a personal level…if the office is inside your home, writing off that expense again would be double dipping, even if it is just a portion.
I am curious how you pay yourself less? I used turbo tax last year, and it calculates tax on earnings one way only…unless im missing something.
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10:42 am August 8, 2012
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MoneyIsTheRoot said:
Invest It Wisely said:
Interesting thread! I'll likely confirm with an accountant before I sent anything in, but while I'm not going to try to deduct my mortgage payments or anything like that, my internet usage is primarily related to business, as are my cell phone expenses. In the end these items are not big huge-writeoffs, but it does help out. I get the most savings from paying myself less salary, since payroll taxes are 30% at anything higher than minimum wage, while business tax is 19%.
While odds are that you already deduct your mortgage interest expense at tax time on a personal level…if the office is inside your home, writing off that expense again would be double dipping, even if it is just a portion.
I am curious how you pay yourself less? I used turbo tax last year, and it calculates tax on earnings one way only…unless im missing something.
I live in Canada so we're not allowed to deduct mortgage expense from our taxes; in fact, there's something called a Smith Manoeuvre in which people borrow against their equity and invest it, so that the interest does become tax deductible.
Right now what I do is transfer some money from one account to another, and determine how much of that is salary (some of it is just pure transfer, because I've paid for some business expenses with my personal money). I then calculate the payroll taxes using an online calculator which I've found to be accurate, and keep track of the liabilities using GnuCash. I had to pay my first payroll this month, and let me tell you, paying 30% after a few months of salary really hurts. :S I also have yearly payroll and stuff that isn't included with the online calculator, and that even the government-supplied calculator doesn't calculate… it's all one big PITA.
Using GnuCash can also get involved as they don't have a very good GUI, but I tried Quicken and didn't like it at all. I do love GnuCash for the easy and simple double accounting, in spite of the bad GUI.
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