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How logical & beneficial to link out to good and relevant sites/blogs?

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9:07 am
January 18, 2012


Craig @ PFDiscussion

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Hi,

A few days ago I read a blog on Problogger.net where the guest author discussed the logic and fair necessity to link out to other blogs. It was a good article which made me thinking .. "How SEO wise it's good? since we are giving free links to other blogs"..

But frankly speaking, with my little knowledge on SEO, I believe that it's indeed logical and very beneficial to link out to good & relevant pages from your content, since Google likes things where visitors are helped to reliable resources. Google will give positive points to both the sites. What's your take? 

9:33 am
January 18, 2012


jaicatalano

New York

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It's another avenue to get noticed. 

10:05 am
January 18, 2012


Craig @ PFDiscussion

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Yes.. since google bots are just getting as smart as human being and they are seeing (crawling) pages/sites like human beings.. if a human being doesn't get value from any site/page, he/she will give a thumbs down.. bots tend to see pages like this.. from visitor points of view..

10:10 am
January 18, 2012


Eric J. Nisall

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My first step is to link to posts within my own site, thereby recirculating the linkjuice and cresting a network within the site.  If I do send outbound links, I always research them to choose quality pages that have strong PR, MR and traffic ratings, or those that I know for a fact are extremely popular.  The good thing is that there are many such pages written by Yakezie members, so that add an additional benefit.

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10:15 am
January 18, 2012


Craig @ PFDiscussion

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You're absolutely right Eric.. Yes, we first must add internal links to our own relevant pages .. and link out to sites/pages which have a mark in that niche and are very good for readers. I believe as much as we give value to visitors, Google likes it. I try to add a Wikipedia page link or to some links of that authority sites. Yes, your point is true and very logical. We can link out to pages from Yakezie member blogs (of course relevant & helpful pages) & help our readers.. 

5:29 am
January 19, 2012


Glen Craig

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It's like if you were writing a college paper – you wouldn't refer back to only your own thoughts would you?  Your professor wants to see that you are getting information from reliable sources and using them to back up your thinking.

5:53 am
January 19, 2012


Jackie

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I think linking out to relevant sites is an excellent idea, and very natural. (And search engines love natural…)

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7:08 am
January 19, 2012


Craig @ PFDiscussion

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Jackie said:

I think linking out to relevant sites is an excellent idea, and very natural. (And search engines love natural…)

True Jakie.. Search engines like natural link. But we must keep in mind the that outbound links are relevant, land at legitimate site pages and are helpful to the visitors. Else, everything will bounce back. Moreover, we must avoid linking to keywords; instead we better link out to long tail or no-keywords anchor text to make things more natural. Smile

7:17 am
January 19, 2012


LaTisha @YoungFinances

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I think you forget about the search engines when you are linking out to relevant resources. Link the keywords, link the actual link, what ever.

In this instance it is the human that you are trying to benefit so do what is most natural.

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9:28 am
January 20, 2012


Craig @ PFDiscussion

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LaTisha @YoungAdultFinances said:

I think you forget about the search engines when you are linking out to relevant resources. Link the keywords, link the actual link, what ever.

In this instance it is the human that you are trying to benefit so do what is most natural.

True.. whatever we link out, it must be natural and we should do it for the benefit of the readers. Search engines are smart enough to catch this.. if we spam links there, we will be heavily penalized. However, we should not fill up every thing with links.. Balance is the key.

5:46 pm
January 20, 2012


Van Beek

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I use a tool like IBP (Internet Business Promotor) to check what on-site SEO I could improve on. Here I noticed that they put value on linking out to pages that have the keywords that you try to rank for both in the title and in the URL of the post.

If I do not know an article that I want to link to, I search by Google for articles that:

1) Have keyword in URL and title.

2) Are providing in my opinion the most valuable information for the reader.

For the anchor text, I use something that is descriptive and relevant, and that includes the keywords.

I think this approach works well for all: the reader, the post that you link to and for me.

Confession: I link still too little to other sites since it takes extra time to find the good links.

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7:30 pm
January 20, 2012


Sustainable PF

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As someone who runs a monthly roundup I have some thoughts on this …

First, I have found that by linking to other sites they come check our site out.  If they find something they like, they may link back, or comment, or subscribe via rss/email/FB/twitter.  They may not as well.  But the way I see it, if I really like an article and want to share to it with our readers I am going to do just that.  If the site I linked to happens to notice all the better.

Second, I have found via Yakezie and the PF blogging community in general that the promotion of positive relationships is abundant and many PF bloggers embrace such philosophy.  Selflessly helping others comes to mind around Yakezie but it really does extend beyond this network to the PF community in general.  I think the folks who attended the first FINCON ('11) learned this first hand.

So yes, giving out a link without a potential return may not give an immediate return – but more often than not, from my experience, showing your readers great content/information and reaching out to other blogs has little downside.

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10:04 pm
January 20, 2012


Craig @ PFDiscussion

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Sustainable PF said:

As someone who runs a monthly roundup I have some thoughts on this …

First, I have found that by linking to other sites they come check our site out.  If they find something they like, they may link back, or comment, or subscribe via rss/email/FB/twitter.  They may not as well.  But the way I see it, if I really like an article and want to share to it with our readers I am going to do just that.  If the site I linked to happens to notice all the better.

Second, I have found via Yakezie and the PF blogging community in general that the promotion of positive relationships is abundant and many PF bloggers embrace such philosophy.  Selflessly helping others comes to mind around Yakezie but it really does extend beyond this network to the PF community in general.  I think the folks who attended the first FINCON ('11) learned this first hand.

So yes, giving out a link without a potential return may not give an immediate return – but more often than not, from my experience, showing your readers great content/information and reaching out to other blogs has little downside.

Well said Sustainable PF , yes we look to linking to those articles which are helpful to readers, are not harmful to our sites. We may also notify the blog owners that we have found his/her article useful in our blogs and thereby, we have linked to that article. This will make the site owners have a look at our blogs & in most cases, he/she will link back to us.. these are all done in a very natural way, even he/she does, your readers will be benefited & search engines will like this..so ,we are not losing anything. But, yes, this takes time as what Van Beek @ Stock Trend Investing said..and true this network is great and help others selflessly.. Smile

5:14 am
January 21, 2012


OneCentAtatime

Florida, USA

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Ok, now going back to question of linking to authority sites from your article. I prefer those links to be nofollow. If you do internal linking and links to other bloggers, then the number of juice getting links should be minimized this way.

You really don't want to pass your juice to Wikipedia or CNN money, do you? I recently had a tax post, I made sure all IRS links are nofollow, and there are plenty of IRS links on it.

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6:34 am
January 21, 2012


Sustainable PF

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Good point OCAT.

I recently no-followed all the links in my footer and sidebar that weren't advertising.  This includes my twitter, fb, rss feeds too.  The links do their job but I don't pass any "authority" to these organizations.

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9:01 am
January 21, 2012


Glen Craig

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Ok, now going back to question of linking to authority sites from your article. I prefer those links to be nofollow. If you do internal linking and links to other bloggers, then the number of juice getting links should be minimized this way.

 

That defeats the purpose, no?  The point of linking to a reference is that it is important to what you are writing about.  If you nofollow links in an article, you are telling the SEs that those links aren't important.  So why would you link to things that aren't important.  That seems strange.

9:14 am
January 21, 2012


Craig @ PFDiscussion

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Glen Craig – Free From Broke said:

Ok, now going back to question of linking to authority sites from your article. I prefer those links to be nofollow. If you do internal linking and links to other bloggers, then the number of juice getting links should be minimized this way.

 

That defeats the purpose, no?  The point of linking to a reference is that it is important to what you are writing about.  If you nofollow links in an article, you are telling the SEs that those links aren't important.  So why would you link to things that aren't important.  That seems strange.

Agreed Glen Craig, .we can nofollow links, though it does not matter to the visitors since, they will anyway get relevant resources from the links but nofollow links may mean to the search engines that those are not as important as they should be.. so, we better give good links in dofollow way, everyone is benefited by this.

3:45 pm
January 21, 2012


OneCentAtatime

Florida, USA

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Glen Craig – Free From Broke said:

Ok, now going back to question of linking to authority sites from your article. I prefer those links to be nofollow. If you do internal linking and links to other bloggers, then the number of juice getting links should be minimized this way.

 

That defeats the purpose, no?  The point of linking to a reference is that it is important to what you are writing about.  If you nofollow links in an article, you are telling the SEs that those links aren't important.  So why would you link to things that aren't important.  That seems strange.

Purpose is for the readers to know more information. The other purpose is to pass link juice to my inter linked posts and my fellow bloggers post. That pretty much ends there. I want Google crawlers to think internal links are authority, not that other mega site. My obligation is to my readers. And my goal is to go up in authority myself. I can't give charity link juice.

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6:32 am
January 22, 2012


Eric J. Nisall

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Post edited 6:32 am – January 22, 2012 by Eric J. Nisall


But if you aren't showing the SE that the links you are referring to are authoritative, aren't you kind of defeating the purpose?  I see it as linking to another authority for the purpose of relating your information to another "authority" to show the correlation between your information and what the SE perceives to be an authority, thereby giving more weight to your information.  Shouldn''t it be both about giving the reader valuable information as well as showing the SE that what you are saying is important at the same time in terms of links.  Plus, if you don't dofollow the links, wouldn't you be burning the bridge so to speak, as you may be less likely to receive any future consideration from the mega-site (not in terms of the IRS, but actively managed blogs and informational sites)?

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10:22 pm
February 6, 2012


Craig @ PFDiscussion

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Eric J. Nisall said:

But if you aren't showing the SE that the links you are referring to are authoritative, aren't you kind of defeating the purpose?  I see it as linking to another authority for the purpose of relating your information to another "authority" to show the correlation between your information and what the SE perceives to be an authority, thereby giving more weight to your information.  Shouldn''t it be both about giving the reader valuable information as well as showing the SE that what you are saying is important at the same time in terms of links.  Plus, if you don't dofollow the links, wouldn't you be burning the bridge so to speak, as you may be less likely to receive any future consideration from the mega-site (not in terms of the IRS, but actively managed blogs and informational sites)?

Agreed Eric. We must show that both the blogs/sites are related with do-follow links. SE gives value to both the blogs. If they are tagged with nofollow, SE can be confused with this. Hence, your blogs may not be considered an authority and the linked site will hog the limelight. Also, agreed with your last point… if we keep nofollowing all the blogs, we may run the risk of being tagged with nofollow for my own blogs too by other bloggers.. this will not leave a good impression with SE at all. 


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