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11:48 am
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I do have a bit of a different perspective on this. You do need to love writing to sustain you because there is going to be a lot of blogging before you make any money, but that certainly doesn't mean you should disregard the money aspect if you want to make blogging a part-time or full time income. I love blogging and I would do it even if I didn't make any money at it (I did for several years), but I also view blogging as a business for me (since it is my full time income). I think that regarding blogging as a business (which I love) has made my blogging much more successful than if I never had. I don't see anything wrong with setting the foundation to make money form the beginning — you just need to realize that you won't be successful (because it will be impossible to sustain) unless you enjoy it even if you weren't making money.
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1:23 pm
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JT_McGee said:
Second, MJTM always says it like no one else. That's the real answer to this question; you really have to do it because you enjoy it, not because you want to make money. Writing for money isn't nearly as fun as writing for fun; it'll show through to your readers, your content will suffer, and so too will your eventual earnings.
Uh oh – doesn't sound like a very good reputation lol
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1:24 pm
November 29, 2011
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savingadvice said:
I do have a bit of a different perspective on this. You do need to love writing to sustain you because there is going to be a lot of blogging before you make any money, but that certainly doesn't mean you should disregard the money aspect if you want to make blogging a part-time or full time income. I love blogging and I would do it even if I didn't make any money at it (I did for several years), but I also view blogging as a business for me (since it is my full time income). I think that regarding blogging as a business (which I love) has made my blogging much more successful than if I never had. I don't see anything wrong with setting the foundation to make money form the beginning — you just need to realize that you won't be successful (because it will be impossible to sustain) unless you enjoy it even if you weren't making money.
Saving Advice,
I don't see the yakezie badge on your site – are you a challenger?
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1:33 pm
November 29, 2011
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Post edited 1:35 pm – November 29, 2011 by savingadvice
MyJourneytoMillions said:
Saving Advice,
I don't see the yakezie badge on your site – are you a challenger?
No, I'm not. While there is certainly not anything wrong with getting your blogs higher up in the rankings, I found that it's just not something that works well for me — I end up spending too much time trying to move up instead of producing content. I found that I was much more productive once I let all those metrics go and did what I liked to do. That's just me.
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1:47 pm
November 29, 2011
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Savingadvice said:
MyJourneytoMillions said:
Saving Advice,
I don't see the yakezie badge on your site – are you a challenger?
No, I'm not. While there is certainly not anything wrong with getting your blogs higher up in the rankings, I found that it's just not something that works well for me — I end up spending too much time trying to move up instead of producing content. I found that I was much more productive once I let all those metrics go and did what I liked to do. That's just me.
Come on, you can't honestly believe your own bullshit? You are here to build link backs and clicks…those are the metrics you care about. Once you figure out that yakezie members and challengers are about helping each other and other blogs (your site seems very far from a true blog) you'll bounce just like every other person who tried to promote a business here.
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1:50 pm
November 29, 2011
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The College Investor said:
You may find this site interesting: http://deneilmerritt.com/septe…..orts-list/
I'm number 11 on that list. This is the first year I've made real money blogging though and I've been doing it for over five years. I just finally got lucky this year. I wouldn't start blogging expecting to make good money right away.
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2:03 pm
November 29, 2011
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MyJourneytoMillions said:
Savingadvice said:
MyJourneytoMillions said:
Saving Advice,
I don't see the yakezie badge on your site – are you a challenger?
No, I'm not. While there is certainly not anything wrong with getting your blogs higher up in the rankings, I found that it's just not something that works well for me — I end up spending too much time trying to move up instead of producing content. I found that I was much more productive once I let all those metrics go and did what I liked to do. That's just me.
Come on, you can't honestly believe your own bullshit? You are here to build link backs and clicks…those are the metrics you care about. Once you figure out that yakezie members and challengers are about helping each other and other blogs (your site seems very far from a true blog) you'll bounce just like every other person who tried to promote a business here.
heh — actually, I'm not here to build either of those (although I'm not adverse to doing so if the opportunity arises and I'm certainly not adverse to mutually helping others). I was specifically referring to metrics like alexia rankings and such that the challenge embraces (and I could be wrong about this since I know very little about the challenge). Of course I am concerned about how well my sites receive traffic (that is how I make my living), but I don't focus on it — I focus on writing.
My main site is more of a website than a blog, although I do have a number of other pure blogs (and blog/websites as well) that I write. I simply wandered my way here, saw some interesting topics and decided to strike up a conversation.
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2:35 pm
November 29, 2011
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A small % of the top bloggers make a full time living some of them make a very good living.
Most bloggers make diddly squat.
Here is an article on the topic from Problogger :
http://www.problogger.net/arch…..-blogging/
Its 4 years old now but I think the trends are probably the same.
About 64% of the bloggers they surveyed made less than $100 a month and about half of them made nothing. Only about 10% made over $2000 a month. And that is in a group of bloggers who read and reply to a survey from Problogger so it probably skews towards the more successful bloggers actively trying to make money.
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2:44 pm
November 29, 2011
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Post edited 2:45 pm – November 29, 2011 by savingadvice
freeby50 said:
A small % of the top bloggers make a full time living some of them make a very good living.
Most bloggers make diddly squat.
Here is an article on the topic from Problogger :
Its 4 years old now but I think the trends are probably the same.
About 64% of the bloggers they surveyed made less than $100 a month and about half of them made nothing. Only about 10% made over $2000 a month. And that is in a group of bloggers who read and reply to a survey from Problogger so it probably skews towards the more successful bloggers actively trying to make money.
A lot has changed in 4 years — there are certainly a lot more opportunities to make small amounts of money and blogs have come into mainstream. My guess is that there are very few bloggers that make a full time income still, but a lot more are making more than $100 a month.
That being said, it's much easier and less time consuming to make money doing a lot of other things besides blogging.
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3:16 pm
November 29, 2011
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You will find that there are a number of members, and true challengers, tired of folks trying to leverage the generosity of this network and will not be overly eager to provide such opportunity. Once (forty times) bitten, twice shy.
If you have a blog un-related to a business, please join us! Great group here, but, guarded after a number of bad experiences.
savingadvice said:
MyJourneytoMillions said:
Savingadvice said:
MyJourneytoMillions said:
Saving Advice,
I don't see the yakezie badge on your site – are you a challenger?
No, I'm not. While there is certainly not anything wrong with getting your blogs higher up in the rankings, I found that it's just not something that works well for me — I end up spending too much time trying to move up instead of producing content. I found that I was much more productive once I let all those metrics go and did what I liked to do. That's just me.
Come on, you can't honestly believe your own bullshit? You are here to build link backs and clicks…those are the metrics you care about. Once you figure out that yakezie members and challengers are about helping each other and other blogs (your site seems very far from a true blog) you'll bounce just like every other person who tried to promote a business here.
heh — actually, I'm not here to build either of those (although I'm not adverse to doing so if the opportunity arises
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3:24 pm
November 29, 2011
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Post edited 3:24 pm – November 29, 2011 by savingadvice
Sustainable PF said:
You will find that there are a number of members, and true challengers, tired of folks trying to leverage the generosity of this network and will not be overly eager to provide such opportunity. Once (forty times) bitten, twice shy.
If you have a blog un-related to a business, please join us! Great group here, but, guarded after a number of bad experiences.
Fully understand that and no offense taken. I happen to be in a very unique position where I don't need to grow my blogs anymore if I don't want — most aren't in that position so it's perfectly understandable that people would assume that I was after something. I took a different path than most bloggers to making a full time income so I don't know how much I have to share that will be helpful, but I can offer a different perspective than most. That is the reason I dropped by.
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4:01 pm
November 29, 2011
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There is a 2009 update, but the result is pretty similar to 2007.
http://www.problogger.net/arch…..-blogging/
freeby50 said:
A small % of the top bloggers make a full time living some of them make a very good living.
Most bloggers make diddly squat.
Here is an article on the topic from Problogger :
http://www.problogger.net/arch…..-blogging/
Its 4 years old now but I think the trends are probably the same.
About 64% of the bloggers they surveyed made less than $100 a month and about half of them made nothing. Only about 10% made over $2000 a month. And that is in a group of bloggers who read and reply to a survey from Problogger so it probably skews towards the more successful bloggers actively trying to make money.
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4:04 pm
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Thanks for dropping by. I love to hear more about how full time bloggers get there.
Your path sounds like a viable plan. Most bloggers seem to be diversifying into multiple blogs now.
I think this is the way to go – quantity counts too. If I can make a bit from 10 sites, that would be just as well as having 1 bigger site. More diversification is better in my book.
savingadvice said:
Sustainable PF said:
You will find that there are a number of members, and true challengers, tired of folks trying to leverage the generosity of this network and will not be overly eager to provide such opportunity. Once (forty times) bitten, twice shy.
If you have a blog un-related to a business, please join us! Great group here, but, guarded after a number of bad experiences.
Fully understand that and no offense taken. I happen to be in a very unique position where I don't need to grow my blogs anymore if I don't want — most aren't in that position so it's perfectly understandable that people would assume that I was after something. I took a different path than most bloggers to making a full time income so I don't know how much I have to share that will be helpful, but I can offer a different perspective than most. That is the reason I dropped by.
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4:04 pm
November 29, 2011
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Cool. If you can impart more knowledge to the group I am sure folks will appreciate it!
savingadvice said:
Sustainable PF said:
You will find that there are a number of members, and true challengers, tired of folks trying to leverage the generosity of this network and will not be overly eager to provide such opportunity. Once (forty times) bitten, twice shy.
If you have a blog un-related to a business, please join us! Great group here, but, guarded after a number of bad experiences.
Fully understand that and no offense taken. I happen to be in a very unique position where I don't need to grow my blogs anymore if I don't want — most aren't in that position so it's perfectly understandable that people would assume that I was after something. I took a different path than most bloggers to making a full time income so I don't know how much I have to share that will be helpful, but I can offer a different perspective than most. That is the reason I dropped by.
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4:10 pm
November 29, 2011
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I would actually discourage you from creating muliple blogs (at least any more than a few) because they simply take so much time to upkeep — I would suggest to leverage the content you have to create niche websites since they can be placed up and left alone and never need updating. I wish I had done more of that and had less blogs to deal with and that is the direction I am currently heading when I do have a free moment here and there.
retireby40 said:
Thanks for dropping by. I love to hear more about how full time bloggers get there.
Your path sounds like a viable plan. Most bloggers seem to be diversifying into multiple blogs now.
I think this is the way to go – quantity counts too. If I can make a bit from 10 sites, that would be just as well as having 1 bigger site. More diversification is better in my book.
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4:27 pm
November 29, 2011
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Thanks for stopping by. I'm curious though, why you discourage away from creating multiple blogs? If I can create a blog that generates more income than it would cost to pay a couple of staff writers, why wouldn't I create another? For the small amount of time to maintain it, it would mean keeping more money in my pocket than I am paying out. If I can keep doing this, it would seem that it would also be better for group deals (as I would theoretically have multiple sites) and notify advertisers of other sites I own when they contact me for one. Just a thought…
I would actually discourage you from creating muliple blogs (at least any more than a few) because they simply take so much time to upkeep — I would suggest to leverage the content you have to create niche websites since they can be placed up and left alone and never need updating. I wish I had done more of that and had less blogs to deal with and that is the direction I am currently heading when I do have a free moment here and there.
retireby40 said:
Thanks for dropping by. I love to hear more about how full time bloggers get there.
Your path sounds like a viable plan. Most bloggers seem to be diversifying into multiple blogs now.
I think this is the way to go – quantity counts too. If I can make a bit from 10 sites, that would be just as well as having 1 bigger site. More diversification is better in my book.
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4:34 pm
November 29, 2011
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That works fine, except that you then have to spend time coordinating the bloggers (I have several that write for me and while it doesn't take as much time as writing the blog, it still does take time). It certainly is a way that one can go, but you will reach a point where it becomes difficult to manage if you keep growing whereas the niche sites rarely, if ever, need any time. I found that I was managing rather than blogging due to too many blogs and had to cut down on them. Now if your main goal is to be a blogging manager, that is definitely the way to go ;)
20sFinances said:
Thanks for stopping by. I'm curious though, why you discourage away from creating multiple blogs? If I can create a blog that generates more income than it would cost to pay a couple of staff writers, why wouldn't I create another? For the small amount of time to maintain it, it would mean keeping more money in my pocket than I am paying out. If I can keep doing this, it would seem that it would also be better for group deals (as I would theoretically have multiple sites) and notify advertisers of other sites I own when they contact me for one. Just a thought…
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5:21 pm
November 29, 2011
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wow. this post has taken a couple of different turns. Thank you all for your input!
As I mentioned originally, I decided to start blogging to help me in two ways:
1) hopefully help to make me a better writer. I feel that my writing is sub-par. So, to get better at writing why not blog? – almost forcing myself to write. Yea, I know, I cold have started a journal or something. However, my interest in finance topics and the internet steered me towards starting a blog. Plus, I still think its pretty damn cool to see something that I "made" on the internet (maybe its my age)
2) Force my brain to think more creatively. If I have to write a post, I need content. To get content, I need to be thinking…..right? So, again, to get better I must do. – I'm trying to revitalize and "wake-up" the brain cells…dont they start to disappear after one turns 40…???? ;-)
My question regarding money was one of simple curiosity. Can I make enough money to pay for my hosting and domain? I still dont know. I have no desire to be a full time blogger. I have a full time job that requires me to travel on a pretty frequent basis (I'm writing this from a hotel room several hundred miles from my home). I have kids. I have a wife. etc…. However, If I can make a few extra $'s a month why not….? I just need to know when, where and how.
So, my goals will continue to be;
- write at least 2 posts per week.
- visit your sites
- leave comments.
- get to know some of you
- increase my Alexa #
- AND, maybe make a few dollars to pay for hosting, domain, and a beer or two.
Will I burn out? Maybe. Will I still be blogging a year from now or two or three? Maybe. I don't now.
So, for now, I'll have some fun. And, as they said in my kids' kindergarten class —- grow my brain. ;-)
Keep the posts/emails coming!
Thanks again,
Jody
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5:27 pm
November 29, 2011
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Sounds like a pretty good damn plan to me :) I will certainly buy you a beer to help on that front if our paths ever cross in real life ;)
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5:50 pm
November 29, 2011
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Post edited 5:50 pm – November 29, 2011 by Sustainable PF
@Jody – when I started a year ago I figured we would scrounge together a few bucks – enough that over the course of the year, I would cover hosting and domain cost. I don't think this is an unreasonable expectation – just don't make it a goal per se. Any money that comes as a result of your personal blog is icing on the cake, but the cake is the primary part of the dessert. Enjoy your new hobby and let things happen as they may. It will likely work out.
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