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9:15 am
November 20, 2011


OneCentAtatime

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Finally I made up my mind and removed the badge I have had enough. Sam pointed out this a couple of months ago and finally I realised, unless you are have a rank to brag about ther's no point in letting readers know that there are numerous others ahead of me.

While Wisebread has me at 148, MC somehow demoted me to 461th position. I so want to check their formula on rank (along with Technorati's). 

 

I know someone or other from MC would certainly look in to this thread. If you are one of them please explain how i can go from 261 to 461 in one week? And what are you doing to fix this. Also please explain how no number in a particular criteria gets highest point. Example, no RSS reader get higher point than having 2000 readers.

If you are giving rank to my blog, you should justify this or else remove me from your listing. I do urge fellow Yakezies to remove MC badge if you are unhappy with their ranking

 

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9:56 am
November 20, 2011


Sustainable PF

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They won't justify anything.  They have an algorithm that determines rank.

Something must have changed on your site.  Did your compete rank tank?  I know it was updated this past week.  Ours got much better and we finally moved from the low 200 range to 165.

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11:13 am
November 20, 2011


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Post edited 8:38 pm – November 20, 2011 by Watson Inc


I agree. Their algorithm includes a lot of metrics. You would have to look at each one for deviations to account of the new aggregate score. In the last two weeks, mine got better by about 100.

 

More broadly, you bring up an interesting point about being selective in what badges you display.

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11:51 am
November 20, 2011


OneCentAtatime

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Nope, compete rank didn't tank. It stays as it was before. There biggest problem is 'N/A' takes priority over any number. also I see the badge is rather beneficial to them, my stats shows the gap between clicks and visits is wider than US trade deficit. 

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12:38 pm
November 20, 2011


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I was under the impression that N/A was just not counted. For example, I thought the N/A for subscribers meant if you didn't display subscribers you would be penalized over someone who even had as few as 5 subscribers displayed, but I received the following response from Andrew last year:

 

"For sites that don't have subscriber data, we actually throw out the
variable entirely – so you're not necessarily penalized if you don't use
Feedburner for example."

 

If they follow this same process for other variables, then I'm not sure that this explains your changed rank.

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12:47 pm
November 20, 2011


JT_McGee

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Post edited 12:53 pm – November 20, 2011 by JT_McGee


My Alexa went to "N/A" on MC, then I…heh, crashed.  I didn't have the badge anyway, and don't really care, but I'm thinking that one of your best variables might have temporarily gone "N/A" during an update, dragging you down the ranks.  

 

If nothing else, you have company!  

 

Edit:  My Compete score dropped considerably in September, too.  MC is using my Sept Compete score, even though October data is up.  I can't figure compete out, either, since it seems they don't count all unique visitors to the homepage.  I installed their code, and know I have way more monthly uniques to the homepage than that.  These stat things are a true waste of time.

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1:08 pm
November 20, 2011


Watson Inc

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I just forwarded this thread to Andrew, so that he can hopefully address these concerns directly as time allows.

 

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5:26 pm
November 20, 2011


Dominique Brown

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How in the heck is my site ranked higher than yours on moneycrashers?  Bahaha.. this is comical

5:29 pm
November 20, 2011


Dominique Brown

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I dropped from 351-422 in a week.. weird especially since my traffic has increase and my alexa score and page rank improved

6:36 pm
November 20, 2011


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My Alexa is also showing NA now.  On a positive note, my SEMRush site value is $25,325!  I'm taking offers! j/k

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6:58 pm
November 20, 2011


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TFB is seeing quality sites selling for 36-48x monthly income.  $25k might be underselling.  I don't think we'd sell for that! :)

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My Alexa is also showing NA now.  On a positive note, my SEMRush site value is $25,325!  I'm taking offers! j/k

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8:22 pm
November 20, 2011


OneCentAtatime

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An establish web real estate can be costlier than actual real estate of your home. Don't sell, keep writing and promoting. I know Robert was joking..still don't sell who ever is having increasing visitors/income every month.

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8:28 pm
November 20, 2011


OneCentAtatime

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Hit submit too early, your actual real estate don't benefit businesses. But your web real estate can, and that's the major differentiating factor.

 

BTW while doing some research on compete ranking today I discovered GRS gets 230K unique visitors a month. JD's e-property price is perhaps in the range of million dollars, if not multi-million..

 

Any one know about a web property appraiser? This could be very interesting discussion.

 

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8:40 pm
November 20, 2011


sooverthis

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Those metrics aren't always accurate, though. Compete shows my site having 800 unique visitors a month, and even in my lowest month I had much better numbers than that. Accuracy depends on the person having a tracking code on their site, and I'm not willing to allow that for any metric other than Analytics.

 

 

 

9:16 pm
November 20, 2011


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I agree. I intentionally don't list some metrics, and the predictions are wildly inaccurate and in the wrong direction :(

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9:19 pm
November 20, 2011


OneCentAtatime

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You don't have to list any data on your site. If anyone is interested in your data, it can be readily available for some fee.

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9:41 pm
November 20, 2011


The College Investor

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sooverdebt said:

Those metrics aren't always accurate, though. Compete shows my site having 800 unique visitors a month, and even in my lowest month I had much better numbers than that. Accuracy depends on the person having a tracking code on their site, and I'm not willing to allow that for any metric other than Analytics.

Compete is a joke of statistics.  Remember, they work for advertisers, so they have an incentive to post low numbers to give advertisers a bargaining position.

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6:02 am
November 21, 2011


Kay Lynn Akers

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I don't understand Money Crashers' metrics. I don't make the top 200 there, but am in the top 100 at Wise Bread.

Of course, I like the latter's number better.Laugh.

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6:49 am
November 21, 2011


MoneyIsTheRoot

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Unless Im in the top 100 I really have no desire to post to post the badge…nobody cares that im ranked 260 lol.  I am surprised by how many people are willing to take up blog real estate with a badge stating such low rankings.

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9:18 am
November 21, 2011


Watson Inc

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Post edited 9:19 am – November 21, 2011 by Watson Inc


"You don't have to list any data on your site. If anyone is interested in your data, it can be readily available for some fee."

 

I don't understand. For example, can someone pay for subscribers stats if it is not published?

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