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11:29 pm April 11, 2012
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Post edited 12:40 am – April 12, 2012 by Financial Samurai
Jeremy, sorry if you feel that putting up ads is being selfish. I don't charge you any money to participate in the forums, and to continuously allow you to highlight your posts in the forums. Are you telling me that I can't put up ads on my own site? I don't tell you what you can do on your site.
The easiest solution is to stop visiting since the ads make you so distraught. That's what I do. Just let me or the other admins know if you want us to remove your account if you can't be positive or constructive.
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12:38 am April 12, 2012
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Personally I don't think the Infolinks are obtrusive at all. And I haven't noticed any decreases in the forum speed either. Things are loading just as quickly for me. I think it'll be good to see what type of stats come out of it after the trial.
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8:49 am April 12, 2012
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I'm curious to know how these infolinks do, myself. I've generally avoided these sort of things on my site, but Adsense is not doing too much. ;) Media.net on the other hand is actually doing pretty decently.
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9:01 am April 12, 2012
| Frugal Portland
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I personally don't like infolinks, but there's a place for them here. I put them up on my site and they looked more like legit links than hover-overs, which made me not want to put REAL links on the site. Since this is a forum, though, people don't usually link to things with words (the links all start with www) and they're easier to avoid. Also, you're right, you don't charge us for being here, and every time I'm active in these forums, more people visit my site. So, if it keeps you in cheese burgers, by all means, put ads up. In fact, you could charge a membership fee AND put ads up, and I'd still buy you a burger!
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9:14 am April 12, 2012
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Frugal Portland said:
I personally don't like infolinks, but there's a place for them here. I put them up on my site and they looked more like legit links than hover-overs, which made me not want to put REAL links on the site. Since this is a forum, though, people don't usually link to things with words (the links all start with www) and they're easier to avoid. Also, you're right, you don't charge us for being here, and every time I'm active in these forums, more people visit my site. So, if it keeps you in cheese burgers, by all means, put ads up. In fact, you could charge a membership fee AND put ads up, and I'd still buy you a burger!
FP - Ha! Thanks! I might take you up on your offer next time I go up to Portlandia. I like it up there. Ping pong and beer.
Obviously, the best user experience is if everything is free, one gets all benefits that are one way, and there is an attractive masseuse rubbing your toes as well. I'm always experimenting with things online and trying to find an optimal balance. I'm happy to write a review on Infolinks after a couple months and share some results. BTW, you are always welcome to support the Yakezie through a monthly subscription via the existing homepage widget if you like.
Kevin – Glad media.net is doing well. I really think the review post made a difference b/c I spoke to 2 engineers and one ad rep on the phone for 30 minutes a couple weeks after who mentioned they put in a lot of changes to improve revenue and relevance. I hope I can do the same for Infolinks and other products which could be good solutions.
Sydney – I'll be monitoring the load times and such as well. There's some kinky code on Yakezie.com which gets bogged down… Apache or MySQL or something which needs fixing.
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Sam
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10:13 am April 12, 2012
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I actually don't think the infolinks are bad at all. Of course they're a little annoying but I don't think it really matters what you put up on this forum. Unless it gets completely annoying then I'll keep coming back!
I know what the infolinks are and I just make sure not to scroll over them – no biggie. (Sorry I'm not making you any money Sam).
Thanks for the info on media.net. I didn't know about them and I just went over and signed up an account!
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10:27 am April 12, 2012
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Not a fan of these types of ads. From a user experience I find they get in my way as the pop ups hide the content I visit the site for.
As for media.net, I re-added it to my site for a trial and I think it has earned just under $4 in 12 days. It won't last.
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10:50 am April 12, 2012
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Post edited 10:51 am – April 12, 2012 by The College Investor
I've been using Infolinks for about a year now and have been incredibly happy with them. They haven't lowered my site speed at all (in fact, I recently wrote a post about my site speed, and it recently loaded at an amazing 800ms according to Pingdom: The Need For Speed in Blogging).
As for income, I've been averaging over $3 CPM for the last three months. Right now it is actually $3.28. I do understand the concerns about the pop-ups, but once visitors see them once, they usually understand. Plus, many major sites have started using either Infolinks or Kontera (similar product, but slower and more distracting). That is how I originally discovered them – they were on Yahoo Finance. Not on the homepage, but on the content pages.
Like Sam said – you never have to click on an ad. I think most of my regular readers know and understand that fully. I think that most of the people who do click the ads are search engine visitors anyway.
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11:13 am April 12, 2012
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The College Investor said:
I've been using Infolinks for about a year now and have been incredibly happy with them. They haven't lowered my site speed at all (in fact, I recently wrote a post about my site speed, and it recently loaded at an amazing 800ms according to Pingdom: The Need For Speed in Blogging).
As for income, I've been averaging over $3 CPM for the last three months. Right now it is actually $3.28. I do understand the concerns about the pop-ups, but once visitors see them once, they usually understand. Plus, many major sites have started using either Infolinks or Kontera (similar product, but slower and more distracting). That is how I originally discovered them – they were on Yahoo Finance. Not on the homepage, but on the content pages.
Like Sam said – you never have to click on an ad. I think most of my regular readers know and understand that fully. I think that most of the people who do click the ads are search engine visitors anyway.
Can you configure it to show only to SE traffic? That will work for me. :)
$3 CPM is not bad actually. Just to clarify, this means you make around $3 per 1,000 page view right?
That will get you plenty of burgers & milkshake.
I'm not up to date on all the SEO lingo yet.
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12:53 pm April 12, 2012
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retireby40 said:
Can you configure it to show only to SE traffic? That will work for me. :)
$3 CPM is not bad actually. Just to clarify, this means you make around $3 per 1,000 page view right?
That will get you plenty of burgers & milkshake.
I'm not up to date on all the SEO lingo yet.
Yes, a $3 CPM means $3 per thousand impressions.
You can't configure it to show to on SE traffic, but you can have it show/not show on specific posts/pages with a little work. I have it show everywhere.
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7:43 am April 13, 2012
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Financial Samurai said:
Frugal Portland said:
I personally don't like infolinks, but there's a place for them here. I put them up on my site and they looked more like legit links than hover-overs, which made me not want to put REAL links on the site. Since this is a forum, though, people don't usually link to things with words (the links all start with www) and they're easier to avoid. Also, you're right, you don't charge us for being here, and every time I'm active in these forums, more people visit my site. So, if it keeps you in cheese burgers, by all means, put ads up. In fact, you could charge a membership fee AND put ads up, and I'd still buy you a burger!
FP - Ha! Thanks! I might take you up on your offer next time I go up to Portlandia. I like it up there. Ping pong and beer.
Obviously, the best user experience is if everything is free, one gets all benefits that are one way, and there is an attractive masseuse rubbing your toes as well. I'm always experimenting with things online and trying to find an optimal balance. I'm happy to write a review on Infolinks after a couple months and share some results. BTW, you are always welcome to support the Yakezie through a monthly subscription via the existing homepage widget if you like.
Kevin – Glad media.net is doing well. I really think the review post made a difference b/c I spoke to 2 engineers and one ad rep on the phone for 30 minutes a couple weeks after who mentioned they put in a lot of changes to improve revenue and relevance. I hope I can do the same for Infolinks and other products which could be good solutions.
Sydney – I'll be monitoring the load times and such as well. There's some kinky code on Yakezie.com which gets bogged down… Apache or MySQL or something which needs fixing.
You let me know if you get to Portland!
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8:10 am April 13, 2012
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Just figured I would share my 2 cents. For the forum… sure, why not. If it helps to support the site, I am all for it. On the other hand, I hate it when I go to websites and scroll over an infolinks text as they are very annoying. Mainly because the links have nothing to do with the topic… just the word (out of context). I will not use such advertising on my personal blogs, but forums, that's a different story as people seem to come to forums for different reasons than they visit a website. Forums also bring a different type of people all together. For instance, this site is made up of people who run blogs, therefore, they understand the reasoning behind the whole infolinks and advertising to make money thing, but those how happen to visit my site (non-bloggers) may get annoyed quite quick and thus stop returning to my site.
Sam, good idea for using it and I look forward to reading your review on it in the future to see how it did here. Please make a post topic letting us know it is live when you write it.
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8:54 am April 13, 2012
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I haven't tried Infolinks but I have used Kontera which is similar. It took me a long time to reach the payout and I suspect some of the Kontera clicks would have otherwise been Adsense clicks. I didn't have any complaints about the links though. I'd consider trying Infolinks if people think it works better than Kontera.
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9:13 am April 13, 2012
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I'd be curious to hear from you how infolinks, media.net, kontera, and adwords all compare. Personally, my google ads stink, and I haven't tried anything else. My traffic is inching upwards and I would like to monetize more of my visits without becoming a commercial whore.
Thoughts?
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9:28 am April 13, 2012
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TightFistedMiser said:
I haven't tried Infolinks but I have used Kontera which is similar. It took me a long time to reach the payout and I suspect some of the Kontera clicks would have otherwise been Adsense clicks. I didn't have any complaints about the links though. I'd consider trying Infolinks if people think it works better than Kontera.
I tried Kontera for 60 days, and was disappointed and took it off. I'm willing to give anything a go for 60 days to get a true sample set, and see what the results are. I won't hold back from my InfoLinks review on Yakezie.com, rest assured.
It's too bad about Kontera, b/c they are based right here in San Fran, and I always love to support local businesses. Maybe they'll contact me with a better offer in the future, or improve their algos. Who knows. I'm open.
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10:28 am April 13, 2012
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I just saw an infolink pop up in someone's signature box. Would be cool if we could set some parameters or areas that are off-limits to the infolinks.
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7:49 am April 17, 2012
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Sunil from The Extra Money Blog said:
I have read a few unfavortable comments about Infolink. Have you tried Adsense? Chitika?
Jonathan, how has the overall sentiment/response been to the in context pop up ads?
Hi Sunil,
Sorry it took me so long to respond, I just came across this thread again now. Overall sentiment on our in-content advertising has been extremely positive. comScore, the leading internet marketing research, found Kontera in-text advertising to be one of the least intrusive forms of online advertising. You can read the complete results of that study here.
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7:57 am April 17, 2012
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moneycone said:
I've used Kontera on one of my other blogs. I requested a payment in July, I received payment in Oct. I ended up removing Kontera.
Sorry, Johnathan, have to call you out on this one. The best would be to do what Google does – payout without me having to initiate a request or pay up promptly.
Hi moneycone,
We do pay publishers automatically. Our payout terms our Net 30, essentially meaning if you reach the $50 minimum payout threshold by the end of February for instance, you'll be paid during the first week of April. I'm not sure specifically what happened in your case, but if you want, I'd be happy to look into it for you. Usually when someone doesn't get paid automatically it's because they forgot to fill out either their payment method or their tax info.
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8:05 am April 17, 2012
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Jonathan – Can you subscribe to this thread to keep in touch with the latest conversation?
Could you share in your opinion what makes Kontera better than Infolinks and vice versa?
thx
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Sam
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8:08 am April 17, 2012
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Financial Samurai said:
TightFistedMiser said:
I haven't tried Infolinks but I have used Kontera which is similar. It took me a long time to reach the payout and I suspect some of the Kontera clicks would have otherwise been Adsense clicks. I didn't have any complaints about the links though. I'd consider trying Infolinks if people think it works better than Kontera.
I tried Kontera for 60 days, and was disappointed and took it off. I'm willing to give anything a go for 60 days to get a true sample set, and see what the results are. I won't hold back from my InfoLinks review on Yakezie.com, rest assured.
It's too bad about Kontera, b/c they are based right here in San Fran, and I always love to support local businesses. Maybe they'll contact me with a better offer in the future, or improve their algos. Who knows. I'm open.
Looking over financialsamurai.com I think your content might be a better match for INTENTclick, which is a new in-text network from Kontera. While it uses the same underlining technology as Kontera, instead of featuring brand ads, it has coupon offers that perform better for publishers that feature Save Money or Better Income content on their site. You can learn more about INTENTclick here, or contact me for additional info.
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