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My PR3 went down to zero!

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12:12 pm
April 5, 2012


Finance Fox.ca

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Well said SPF. I totally agree with you, and you raise a very valid point.

Making a deal with an advertiser is a legal agreement, they will pay "X" amount for a certain period. One is obligated to fulfill that agreement whether punished or not by Google.

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1:24 pm
April 6, 2012


TightFistedMiser

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I know that some advertisers have requested that their ads now be made nofollow.  I would hope that anyone changing links to nofollow is doing so at the advertiser's request or with their permission.

7:31 pm
April 6, 2012


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Back to the zero club for me.  :(

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8:05 pm
April 6, 2012


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Cents To Save said:

Back to the zero club for me.  :(

Could just be an update.  If no PR after 3 days, likely trouble. (that is my measuring stick)

Please drop me an email if you need someone to talk to.  I'm dealing with this mess and am happy to share hope :)

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Our site has dramatically reduced our dofollow links.  The advertisers have appreciated my candidness and honesty.  I learned things I don't think I would have learned has I not opened a discussion with the SPF Partners.  I am wiser for the experience (and it isn't over, so i'll learn more!)

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2:46 am
April 7, 2012


maria@moneyprinciple

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SPF, for what it is worth, I agreed with your message whole heartedly. Whilst my heart goes to all who lost so much with a click of a button (somewhere) I have always believed that when a rule is in the way one shouldn't break it but change it.

 

I am reluctant to take part because, frankly, my experience of all this is so limited that I don't think I have much practical usefulness to contribute; in fact I am one of those that may need quite a lot of supprt to figure the monetising game out. Apart from that, this was a case where having law PR was no so bad really: it was not changed and we shall see what will happen in the future. It looks like my site is doing OK if I am to judge by trafic and approaches by advertiser.

 

I will make the rules under which I do advertising much stricter though and see what happens. Sometime, having strong believes and standing by these is not such a bad idea.

 

Maria

7:57 am
April 7, 2012


Invest It Wisely

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From the other thread, you know where I stand. :)

 

I'm curious how this will affect things down the line. I think at some point you have to assume that Google gets as smart as a human in figuring out the "proper value" of a link. That is, they are able to semantically parse the context of a link and assess its value much the same as a human would.

I don't think this is so far-fetched BTW. This is Google's goal and they're getting closer with each update. Keeping search engine results relevant is how they stay popular with end users.

What does this mean for those that continue to sell links that pass page rank? I could see two alternatives:

  • Once Google is smart enough to assess the value of a link, it no longer cares whether it's paid or not. If the link is not very relevant, it's not worth much in Google's eyes, and therefore these links will command less market value.
  • Google uses the vast amount of information at its disposal to correlate paid text link campaigns, and is able to harshly punish these links.
It's kind of scary that one company can affect the fortunes of so many, but in the end keep in mind that links only have market value because Google created the market with an algorithm that could be gamed. If Google did not have such a big portion of search traffic, would passing PageRank matter so much? Think about what you're asking for when you're demanding to have your PageRank back — it's not yours, and it never was. It's what Google thinks about you, and so long as you play on their turf you have to play by their rules.
Maybe this is a good signal to diversify. :)

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