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no follow in carnival – what would you do?

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9:20 am
January 3, 2012


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Hey Everyone,

 

I would like some feedback. I run carnival submissions for a few bloggers and I just noticed that the host of Festival of Frugality for this week decided to assign no-follow attributes to all of the outgoing carnival links. I usually don't take things like this personally, but that just seems pretty sneaky to me. My first reaction to tell my clients not to link back to the carnival (or to tell my clients to assign a no-follow attribute in the link back), but I also don't want to be unnecessarily mean/spiteful. Maybe it's not that big of a deal??

 

What would you do?

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9:36 am
January 3, 2012


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I whole heartedly support this notion! Good find Corey, I do not check these things.

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9:49 am
January 3, 2012


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Great find. Given that one of the main points to contribute to a carnival is link building, it's unfortunate that the host chose to go this route. I don't know why he agreed to host if that is his position. Thanks for letting me know, and I actually don't think your response is spiteful at all. People who link back should know what they are giving "link juice" for IMHO, especially since they are your clients.

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10:19 am
January 3, 2012


The Frugal Toad

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Have you contacted the Carnival host?  I would check with them to see if it was an oversight and then ask the host to make the links do-follow since it is a Carnival. ;)

 

Also agree that it is implied when hosting a Carnival that links are do-follow.

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10:36 am
January 3, 2012


Mike – Saving Money Today

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That's just bizarre and it defeats the whole purpose of the carnival.  Maybe it was unintentional.  It would be pretty short-sighted on the host's part if it was intentional since they will probably cost themselves many links in the future. 

10:52 am
January 3, 2012


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Contact whoever "owns" the carnival.

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11:01 am
January 3, 2012


John @ Married with Debt

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Hmmm…is everything on their site NoFollow?

I made everything on my site DoFollow because I control the comments/links anyway, and I want everyone who comments on my site to be able to strengthen their sites by doing so.

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11:49 am
January 3, 2012


OneCentAtatime

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Sustainable PF said:

Contact whoever "owns" the carnival.

That would be Ryan Sandberg. I sent you an email with his email id

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11:50 am
January 3, 2012


OneCentAtatime

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I sent mail to Corey

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7:56 am
January 4, 2012


TightFistedMiser

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It could just be a mistake.  I accidentally made all the links on one of my blogs no-follow for a while by checking the wrong box in my Thesis theme.  It can happen.

8:01 pm
January 8, 2012


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Great looking out Corey…. check with the host to see if this was on purpose or not…. it could be an honest mistake or it could have been on purpose… only one way to find out.  Good luck.

10:36 pm
January 8, 2012


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I have to research whether my own links in my blog are all nofollow.  I don't want that to be the case, it might just be the default HTML setting in my theme!  Thanks for the heads up.

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4:46 am
January 9, 2012


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Corey, I did a qick analysis of this carnival. Not all the links are nofollow, example, my link is not having that attribute. Did you talk to the host? What he said?

 

@ADP – if you ar not using any plugin to record your outbound clicks on analytics, you are good as by default wordpress do not assign nofollow. If you are using any such plugin then check your default nofollow attribute value.

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5:03 am
January 9, 2012


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SB,

 

I contacted the owner and he said that he would look into it. I still haven't heard anything.

 

That's interesting – it looks like yours is the only one that is do-follow. (although I didn't look at every link)

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7:07 am
January 9, 2012


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Interesting!!

Believe me, I didn't have any internal arrangements with him Laugh

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8:04 am
January 9, 2012


Penny Pinching Professional

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It wouldn't have occurred to me to check for that.  In fact, I didn't know you could.  For future reference, how do you check that?

2:03 pm
January 9, 2012


Larry @ The Skilled Investor

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Post edited 2:18 pm – January 9, 2012 by Larry @ The Skilled Investor


Penny Pinching Professional said:

It wouldn't have occurred to me to check for that.  In fact, I didn't know you could.  For future reference, how do you check that?

In blogging/web development, I always run Firefox with the SEOQuake add-on enabled and no-follow links set to show with a strike-through. There are other SEO add-ons for Firefox and for other browsers that detect link follow/nofollow — some highlighting nofollow links with color instead of strike-throughs. Settings are configurable.

 

I started doing this as a matter of course, because Wordpress SEO plugins may have an index (yes/no) and follow/nofollow selector in the post editing panel. A couple times I have unknowingly changed the setting from index/follow during editing. However, when visiting the page, all links are struck-through and I know immediately what the problem is and how to fix it.

 

Obviously, this set-up is helpful in detecting link follow/nofollow on any site visited. You can very easily understand where Google juice is being directed on any webpage — intentionally or inadvertently. I never assume that a blogger knows about follow/nofollow and Wordpress and Wordpress themes can make controlling follow/nofollow very difficult. (Nofollow is Google's little mismanaged Frankenstein creation that wastes hordes of time. Check Wikipedia for background.)

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5:44 pm
January 9, 2012


Invest It Wisely

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That is really strange. It might have been some copy/paste error. Would be interested in the follow-up.

4:40 am
January 10, 2012


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Thanks, Larry, I'm going to give that plugin a shot.  Hopefully I don't find that I'm doing everything wrong on my blog

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4:50 am
January 10, 2012


Invest It Wisely

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It looks like at least some of the links were fixed. For more strangeness, I got an email telling me I was included, but I couldn't actually find my post. ;)

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