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5:59 pm June 23, 2011
| Money Reasons
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Wow, that's awesome Kris!
Congratulation on the move! I know when I moved off of my workstation at home to a hosted solution, I had a pretty decent increase in traffic. So it totally makes sense that moving from a hosted solution to a VP Server or Dedicated server would make a big difference! As the others have said, speed goes make a difference in googles eyes…
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6:21 pm June 23, 2011
| everydaytips
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MyJourneytoMillions said:
Kris,
I don't know what it is but my adsense has been through the roof this week obviously so has SE traffic with it.Maybe its an update to google?
Also, I looked into VPS do you have to now pay for cPanel?
Evan,
I have to admit I am not the most savvy person when it comes to the technology-side of blogging. However, from what I understand, cpanel is free and you can host as many sites as you want on the VPS. The info states the following:
cPanel VPS Optimized
Each of our VPS Hosting plans includes a full license to the award-winning cPanel control panel software. Most other VPS providers only offer this feature at an additional monthly fee or simply don't offer it at all.
cPanel offers easy-to-use, powerful tools that allow you to quickly, easily, and reliably perform essential tasks like creating email accounts, setting up MySQL databases and creating sub-domains.
Glad your adsense is doing so well. Mine seems to ebb and flow, but I think you get more traffic than I do!
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9:53 am June 24, 2011
| JT_McGee
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Post edited 9:56 am – June 24, 2011 by JT_McGee
Yes, ASO has cPanel on their "cloud" service for the 768mb ram+ plans. In terms of security/apache updates, they're really easy through cPanel. It would be a PITA if you didn't have cPanel though. The cloud service is a "reseller" account, meaning that you can put unlimited domains on it and each will have cPanel.
On the other hand, I've heard good thing about their "proactive service" plan for $15/mo. They'll email you once a month, talk to your about your site/s, and see what kind of updates/services they need to run to keep everything in tip-top shape.
P.S. The ASO people you talk to before you have an account aren't the most helpful people in the world. Send an email to billing@ or abuse@ to get the techs.
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10:01 am June 24, 2011
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Suba, I'm going to drop you a PM. I'm thinking we may be able to work something out, actually.
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10:22 am June 24, 2011
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Post edited 10:41 am – June 24, 2011 by JT_McGee
If you're interested in bumping up your hosting…
Then comment here or PM me. I made an offer to Suba, but the more the merrier. In putting many sites on a VPS, we can all reduce our costs while increase our services (have technicians deal with the nonsense of the technical side ).
Obviously, all of our sites will be faster for it too–consider it a cloud within a cloud. By having more people, there will be more coverage for high-traffic days (think front-page of…Digg, or something) for an individual site. Every time the service is scaled up, there is more RAM/CPU cycles available 24/7 at a lower price. As I said earlier, the service is based out of a The Planet datacenter; we're not going to clog one of their pipes. ;)
Costs would be minimal. $2/mo for a unique IP per person, plus whatever the appropriated costs of the service is. This is not a profit-making venture for me; everything will be 100% transparent between everyone who might participate. In the end, I just want better quality at a lower price.
So, if you're interested, PM me. I guess I'll just keep this open-ended for a month, at which point all the sites can be moved and costs figured out.
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4:58 pm June 24, 2011
| Budgeting in the Fun Stuff
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JT, this sounds awesome but I have no idea what you are really talking about. I'm sorry, could you explain this like I was a really smart 6 year old? Would the $2-$5 a month be covering a hosting service? I am currently at Host Gator and spent like $7 a month for the next year but they want to charge $35 a month to move me to a "VPS", which sounds like what you are talking about. So your deal is WAY better but what am I missing?
Also, would their techs move everything for me? As my 6 year old comment suggests, I wouldn't know how to do anything behind the scenes…
Thanks in advance for your time JT!
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6:43 pm June 24, 2011
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After explaining to Crystal like she's a smart 6 yr old, please explain it to me like i'm a dumb 10 yr old.
We are currently getting our hosting free but we will run out of storage space (500 mb) or (maybe) get enough traffic we exceed our bandwidth max – so i'll need to make a change eventually.
Our site is pretty slow right now – i'm guessing a combo of too many plugins, using a free theme (atahualpa) and the free hosting.
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7:54 pm June 24, 2011
| Kay Lynn Akers
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I'm interested in the 6 y/o explanation too.
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10:00 pm June 24, 2011
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A VPS is a dedicated chunk of a shared server. Basically, they divide it into 4(or whatever) completely separate parts and rent each part out to someone, who gets to treat it as a complete server. The shared hosting most of use are using has 100 or 1000 people using it for whatever they are doing. This eliminates the shared processor time.
The way I understand it, JT's got one that he's willing to share, and the more people who get on board, the cheaper it is to upgrade to a really banging server.
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10:09 pm June 24, 2011
| The College Investor
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I'd be interested as well. JT, send me what you are thinking about. Would love more info.
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11:14 pm June 24, 2011
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JT, can you explain to me as well (my standard : 6 yr old dumb kid) how this would work? What is the difference between a ahared server and lot of people sharing a vps (except we know who we are sharing it with?) How can I figure our how much bandwidth I am using every month?
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5:30 am June 25, 2011
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I can't speak for JT's host but for some VPS's you can set up separate cPanel accounts for users. It could be essentially the same, set-up-wise, as a shared account.
The caveats would be if something happened to his server or if one person in the shared environment had a big traffic burst. But for the price it could be worth it.
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9:21 am June 25, 2011
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I'm going to give it my best.
A virtual private server (VPS) is a virtual machine on a server. It's basically like taking 1 really massively awesome server and splitting all the resources into smaller pieces.
My VPS is a cloud VPS, meaning that it's like having 50 massively awesome servers, and splitting them up into several smaller pieces. I have one small piece of 50 massively awesome servers, and they all contribute to making the site load really fast. Go to my site, http://moneymamba.com to see how fast it loads, then click to an individual page–almost instant. Everything but the off-site things like tweetmeme etc. loads really fast. Obviously, a VPS cannot speed up the things that are hosted offsite.
If we were to do this, everyone would get their own cPanel account. You know, what you see when you to to yoursite.com:2082…
Basically, the benefit in going in together is that we get economies of scale. To put it simply, we could all go buy 1 20oz Coca-Cola from a store for $1.25. Or we could all pool our $1.25s together to get $10, and buy 20 of them. 8 vs. 20. Pooling obviously makes sense.
The same is true with hosting. I'm currently using ASO's cloud VPS: http://www.asmallorange.com/ho…..ing/cloud/
Check out the various options and how they scale. Each time you double the price of the VPS, you get like 3 or 4 times the amount of computing power/bandwith/storage space.
Jason explains it really well. Basically, in pooling together we'd get "banging" hosting for a really, really low price. FreeForBroke does too, but the burst of traffic wouldn't be a problem at all because this isn't an ordinary VPS. It's a cloud VPS, meaning that we'd have a piece of many servers, not just one.
On the topic of security:
Unfortunately, you'd have to trust that I'm not going to go in and screw up your site for the fun of going in to screw your site. You'd also have to trust that someone isn't going to get a hold of a 128-bit secure password to log into the VPS.
Anyone who went in on this would have my full legal name, my address, and business office address. I have no real incentive to screw you guys over, but hey, I can understand the concern. LOL
On the topic of data protection, the servers are auto-failover. Meaning that they cannot go down. If one server of the 50 in the cloud goes down, the other 49 have the data and nothing is lost. We can double down on security by having automated backups made of everyone's account every few days.
Bottomline: If we were to pool our money together, we'd all get really ballin' hosting at a much better cost than anything out there.
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10:12 am June 25, 2011
| The College Investor
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Sounds good, I'm still interested. Email me or PM me with the specifics once you get a group together.
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10:16 am June 25, 2011
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I'm in! And emailing you JT!
Honestly, you had me at "data protection", lol.
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1:07 pm June 25, 2011
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what port would be be using JT? For myself I need to be on a port less than 1000 if I want to access the site @ work.
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7:12 am June 26, 2011
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I think it's a great idea…but am extremely untech savvy so it's almost a mental obstacle to me. But I would most likely be on board as long as you could talk me and others through everything.
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