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What are the critical actions to move from PR3 to PR4?

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8:39 am
March 6, 2012


Van Beek

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My blog is now already for more than 18 months on PR3.

I hoped with the last PR update to get to PR4… but no.

What are the critical actions to take to get to PR4?

Alexa sees that I have 968 sites linking in. I do have a few PR4 and PR5 links back to the site (but maybe Google does not recognize them or so).

Quite a few of the inner pages have already a PR2.

What do you suggest I do to get the home page to PR4 or more?

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9:13 am
March 6, 2012


LaTisha @YoungFinances

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Isn't that the million dollar question?

Any move in page rank depends on feeding Google the correct inputs so that their algorithm subsequently gives you a higher ranking. 

From what I understand it is a combination of backlinks, traffic and most recently social proof. No one knows the secret to the recipe or which input matters the most.

 

The key is to build your site as the authority on the information you provide and ranking metrics will follow. Hope that helps.

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9:13 am
March 6, 2012


LaTisha @YoungFinances

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One more thing.

Each move up is exponentially higher than the last so moving from 2 to 3 is easier than moving from 4 to 5 by an exponential degree.

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9:19 am
March 6, 2012


Jeff @ Sustainable Life Blog

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great tips latisha – keep working VB, you'll get there. it took me FOREVER to get a PR3

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9:55 am
March 6, 2012


Dividend Ninja

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LaTisha @YoungAdultFinances said:

One more thing.

Each move up is exponentially higher than the last so moving from 2 to 3 is easier than moving from 4 to 5 by an exponential degree.

La Tisha hit the nail on the head here!  It's easier to move up the PR ladder with a lower number, and then it gets progressivley more difficult.

The bottom line is Google considers a PR3 site average. Personally I think my site rocks, but according to Google its only average when compared to its peers! A PR4 site is considered above average when compared it its peers, and again content is king, and of course "quality" backlinks, not just any backlinks.

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2:01 pm
March 6, 2012


Modest Money

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Don't worry too much about your PR.  It is just a number to give you a basic reference point.  It is only a very small part of what goes into ranking websites.  Also, the jump from PR3 to PR4 can be quite difficult.

 

It will take more than a few PR4-5 links to reach PR4.  When you mention your links, are those actual dofollow links?  Alexa will display nofollow links too, which will not count towards your PR.  If PR is truly important to you, you'll need to find more ways to get dofollow links and lots of them.  Really though, just keep on doing what you're doing and getting lots of exposure and the PR will come in time.

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6:24 am
March 7, 2012


Jackie

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Van Beek @ Stock Trend Investing said:

What are the critical actions to take to get to PR4?

No idea :)

I have one site that was at PR3 for years. As soon as I dropped my posting schedule back from daily to 1x a month, it moved to PR4.  It makes no sense to me.

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6:54 am
March 7, 2012


Frugal Confessions

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Yup–I don't think anyone knows the answer to that question. If they did, Google would need to change its algorithm.

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8:44 am
March 7, 2012


MoneyBeagle

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Jackie said:

I have one site that was at PR3 for years. As soon as I dropped my posting schedule back from daily to 1x a month, it moved to PR4.  It makes no sense to me.

That's too funny.

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10:42 am
March 7, 2012


AmericanDebtProject

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I like LaTisha's advice. I know I've been at PR2 for at least 6 months, and I had no formal plan to get there. Links are important and content is even more important. I'll just continue to write and improve my work and hope for the best :)

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12:54 pm
March 7, 2012


Daisy

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I'm a PR3, and I'm lucky because I have no idea how that happened. I didn't even know what PR was and when I checked, lo and behold, I was a 3.  I'm glad you asked this question as I was wondering the same thing; I don't want to stay on 3 anymore but I don't know how many PR 4-5 links I have or what. Anyway.. hoping for a jump next time it updates.

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1:49 pm
March 7, 2012


seedebtrun

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It will be fascinating to see where I end up landing once the next PR census goes out…

I truly have no idea what to expect.

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4:51 am
March 8, 2012


MoneyBeagle

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I've been a PR3 for so long that I figure it's my ceiling at this point.

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6:13 am
March 8, 2012


Van Beek

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I saw that this tool:

http://www.check-domains.com/w…..alyzer.php

shows a page rank prediction (just for fun).

I'm not sure on what it is based or how reliable it is. For my site it predicts a PR4.

In any case that feels good.

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6:29 am
March 8, 2012


Sustainable PF

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@Van Beek – that site has most every site "predicted" as a PR higher than they are.  Mine has shown as a 4 for over a year.  Had a 4 for about 2 weeks but that disappeared when Google corrected itself in the update in summer of 2011.

Take that site "predict" value w/ a grain of salt.

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6:53 am
March 8, 2012


Michelle (Making Sense of Cents)

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Very interesting and I love reading these comments.

 

I've been blogging since August of 2011, and I'm a PR3 right now. I'm hoping with the next one that I'm a 4, but I highly doubt that.

7:51 am
March 8, 2012


Eric – PersonalProfitability.com

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I have had two sites rocket to PR4 and after years at PR4 drop to PR3. I say just do what is best for your readers, PageRank is something none of us will ever control.

8:10 am
March 8, 2012


20s Finances

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@SPF, That might even be too generous – haha. I would guess that the pagerank predictor is just based off of mozrank.

 

@van beek, The key to build up a site's pagerank is to increase QUALITY links. If you have quality content, the assumption is that people will link to it naturally. That seems to be the easiest way to build up your rankings. You should also be taking advantage of opportunities to get links for the content you are currently publishing on a regular basis, like carnivals, fwisp, pf buzz, etc. One or two links probably won't make a huge difference, but hundreds or thousands over time will.

 

There are probably other things that will improve your PR, but as everyone said, it's not an exact science.

Sustainable PF said:

Take that site "predict" value w/ a grain of salt.

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4:39 pm
March 8, 2012


newlywedsbudget

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Van Beek @ Stock Trend Investing said:

I saw that this tool:

http://www.check-domains.com/w…..alyzer.php

shows a page rank prediction (just for fun).

I'm not sure on what it is based or how reliable it is. For my site it predicts a PR4.

In any case that feels good.

It predicted I would be a 3, but nope still a 2. And to add insult to injury, it now predicts I will be a 4. I'm not holding my breath

6:52 am
March 9, 2012


MoneyBeagle

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It seems that tool predicts everybody at least one higher than they actually are.  I guess you would probably know you're in trouble if it predicted a PR lower than what you currently have *lol*

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