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What would be your IDEAL personal financial program?

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10:54 pm
November 8, 2011


Kevin @ Avant

Chicago, IL

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Hey Guys,

If you could make THE perfect personal finance software that helps you get out of debt and manage your finances, what would it be?  What kind of "stuff" would you build to help your readers reach their financial goals?

 

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6:20 am
November 9, 2011


MyJourneytoMillions

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Problem is that all get out of debt software is the EXACT SAME THING and that is because it has to be!  No magical software is going to get someone out of debt in the end they are all just really cool calculators.

So that is what I would recommend – take the vertex42 debt snowball excel spreadsheet that got me out of debt and turn it into a cool program

8:17 am
November 9, 2011


The College Investor

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I love Quicken.  Wish it updated more like Mint though.  I also wish it kept track of debt better, like my mortgage and student loans, which Mint does.  Finally, I'd like to be able to keep records of insurance and other stuff like airline mileage, similar to Manilla. 

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8:38 am
November 9, 2011


Suba @ Wealth Informatics

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I agree with Evan. There is no trick to getting out of debt. It is a simple process.

1) Negotiate with the lender and reduce your rate if you can (Ramit Sethi's scripts are more than enough for this)

2) Make a plan and stop getting into more debt (Any snowball spreadsheet can do this and there is a ton of them)

3) Reduce spending (Beyond basic budgeting which can be done with Mint or simple excel, no software can help with this. At this point, it is more than math, now the work is in the consumer's mind)

4) Pay off and not relapse. If they did #3 right, they will be good to go.

The only thing that can be done is changing those spreadsheets into easy to use programs, but that taste varies for each one of us. I feel more comfortable with spreadsheets most of the time because I can do lot of what-if analysis. I do like mint for immediate notifications on my goals and budget tracking. 

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8:56 am
November 9, 2011


Eric J. Nisall

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I think the only thing that can help some people is to come up with a program that takes everything and calculates an "allowance", locking up all access to their funds and credit cards, while paying their bills and only giving them that allowance each month.  Not very realistic, I know, but since people are their own worst enemy it's the only thing I can think of that would actively help get them out of debt

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12:28 pm
November 9, 2011


Kevin @ Avant

Chicago, IL

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MyJourneytoMillions said:

Problem is that all get out of debt software is the EXACT SAME THING and that is because it has to be!  No magical software is going to get someone out of debt in the end they are all just really cool calculators.

So that is what I would recommend – take the vertex42 debt snowball excel spreadsheet that got me out of debt and turn it into a cool program

So pretty much a program that told you how much to pay towards each credit card that keeps a running balance of all your creditors? 

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12:31 pm
November 9, 2011


Kevin @ Avant

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Eric J. Nisall said:

I think the only thing that can help some people is to come up with a program that takes everything and calculates an "allowance", locking up all access to their funds and credit cards, while paying their bills and only giving them that allowance each month.  Not very realistic, I know, but since people are their own worst enemy it's the only thing I can think of that would actively help get them out of debt

 

Interesting Eric, so kinda like a fully automated bill pay solution that handles all theirs like mortgage/rent, utilities, auto, students, credit cards, etc..and gives them a monthly allowance for entertainment purposes? 

 

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1:08 pm
November 9, 2011


Eric J. Nisall

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DebtEye said:

Eric J. Nisall said:

I think the only thing that can help some people is to come up with a program that takes everything and calculates an "allowance", locking up all access to their funds and credit cards, while paying their bills and only giving them that allowance each month.  Not very realistic, I know, but since people are their own worst enemy it's the only thing I can think of that would actively help get them out of debt

Interesting Eric, so kinda like a fully automated bill pay solution that handles all theirs like mortgage/rent, utilities, auto, students, credit cards, etc..and gives them a monthly allowance for entertainment purposes?

 

Yeah, something like that.  I know it's more Star Trek than real life, but it's till a thought.

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5:34 pm
November 9, 2011


Kevin @ Avant

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Suba @ Wealth Informatics said:

I agree with Evan. There is no trick to getting out of debt. It is a simple process.

1) Negotiate with the lender and reduce your rate if you can (Ramit Sethi's scripts are more than enough for this)

2) Make a plan and stop getting into more debt (Any snowball spreadsheet can do this and there is a ton of them)

3) Reduce spending (Beyond basic budgeting which can be done with Mint or simple excel, no software can help with this. At this point, it is more than math, now the work is in the consumer's mind)

4) Pay off and not relapse. If they did #3 right, they will be good to go.

The only thing that can be done is changing those spreadsheets into easy to use programs, but that taste varies for each one of us. I feel more comfortable with spreadsheets most of the time because I can do lot of what-if analysis. I do like mint for immediate notifications on my goals and budget tracking. 

What kind of "what-if" analysis helps you?  Something along the lines of, "if i pay an additional "x" amount, i will save "y" amount?"

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5:56 pm
November 9, 2011


sooverthis

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I have the perfect personal finance system already – PNC Virtual Wallet. Nothing else I've used can touch it. 

 

 

 

5:58 pm
November 9, 2011


Kevin @ Avant

Chicago, IL

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sooverdebt said:

I have the perfect personal finance system already – PNC Virtual Wallet. Nothing else I've used can touch it. 

 

Interesting, I'm guessing this is only for PNC customers?  Do you mind explaining what it does, and what features you like the most about PNC Virtual Wallet? 

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6:23 pm
November 9, 2011


sooverthis

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Nope, not going to do your research for you. Check it out: http://www.pncvirtualwallet.com

 

 

 

6:27 pm
November 9, 2011


Kevin @ Avant

Chicago, IL

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sooverdebt said:

Nope, not going to do your research for you. Check it out: http://www.pncvirtualwallet.com

 

I actually just researched it.  Seems like a lot of features in it that's useful to manage your bills.

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6:39 pm
November 9, 2011


Suba @ Wealth Informatics

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DebtEye said:

What kind of "what-if" analysis helps you?  Something along the lines of, "if i pay an additional "x" amount, i will save "y" amount?"

 

That is one part, there could be "n" number of other things I might want, like if I pay extra on just one month or if I balance transfer to x% card… I can't think of more things right now but no program gives me the control I want other than just good old spreadsheets.

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4:19 am
November 10, 2011


MoneyBeagle

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I've been using my own custom spreadsheet that I tweak whenver I need to, for so long, that I can't imagine anything would not involve a steep learning curve. 

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5:52 am
November 11, 2011


Jackie

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MyJourneytoMillions said:

So that is what I would recommend – take the vertex42 debt snowball excel spreadsheet that got me out of debt and turn it into a cool program

That's pretty much what my Pay Off Debt app does :)

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