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6:07 am December 19, 2011
| My Personal Finance Journey
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Cool! Any idea how much it sold for?
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Jason@LiveRealNow said:
Another one sold.
The Simple Dollar is now a property of Cut Media.
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9:25 am December 19, 2011
| Jason@LiveRealNow
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No idea. Nobody publishes those numbers, and I'm not one of Trent's friends, to get the secret.
My Personal Finance Journey said:
Cool! Any idea how much it sold for?
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Jason@LiveRealNow said:
Another one sold.
The Simple Dollar is now a property of Cut Media.
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12:20 pm December 19, 2011
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Jason@LiveRealNow said:
No idea. Nobody publishes those numbers, and I'm not one of Trent's friends, to get the secret.
My Personal Finance Journey said:
Cool! Any idea how much it sold for?
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Jason@LiveRealNow said:
Another one sold.
The Simple Dollar is now a property of Cut Media.
When I saw this last week, my only thought was I hope he gets to continue controlling the content. It looks like he will , at least for the next 3 years, which is great.
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3:54 pm December 19, 2011
| The Family CEO
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This is so cool! I'm with those that find this very encouraging. Even if I never have a site worth six figures, I love that we're all building online real estate that has value and could probably be sold at some point.
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8:06 am December 20, 2011
| Invest It Wisely
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Good god. For $100k I think I would sell, but nobody has offered that yet. ;) For 2x multiple I probably wouldn't.
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9:27 am December 20, 2011
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I sold my first site (Green Panda Treehouse) to M-35 network a couple of years ago [Mike wrote about his side of it here on Yakezie]. It was around 2x the annual income. I was overwhelmed juggling a couple of sites and I felt that if I had to drop one of my personal finance blogs it would be the one focused on college finances instead of couples and money.
I'm still happy about the decision – I see Couple Money as a site to grow with and more potential for income. As an added bonus I get paid to make weekly contributions to my old site. I'm also happy about who I sold it to – M-35 has been doing a fantastic job with GPT.
If you're looking at selling your blog at some point, maximize your price by getting your site in tip top shape:
- Keep good stats: Buyers will want to know the numbers over time. Don't guess – keep records on your subscribers, twitter followers, Facebook likes, etc. This is a business transaction, be professional.
- Diversify your site income streams: If you have multiple ways that your site brings in money, it makes it makes it a more attractive buy as it appears more stable.
- Tailor to your potential buyer: Highlight your plusses that appeal to that particular buyer (or group of buyers) (like high engagement on Twitter) and use that to negotiate a higher price.
- Have a minimum in mind: Whether it's a certain amount or multiple, have some thing in mind before you start talking.
Did I do all of the above with GPT? No; but I've learned quickly and adjusted. I hope it can help others with the process.
By the way you may discover it's in your best interest to hold on to your site instead of selling. Only you can make that decision.
If there comes a time to sell Couple Money I'd look for 4x-6x annual income and decide on whether or not to start another personal finance blog.
To answer the thread's question about whether my blog would sell for $1 million that would be a no. Have to continue to put in some elbow grease in. :D
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1:14 pm December 20, 2011
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Elle said:
If there comes a time to sell Couple Money I'd look for 4x-6x annual income and decide on whether or not to start another personal finance blog.
To answer the thread's question about whether my blog would sell for $1 million that would be a no. Have to continue to put in some elbow grease in. :D
Elle that doesn't make sense at all. 4x annual income would mean that you have to be making more than $250K/yr? and 6x would mean that your income is more than $166K/yr. Right?
Call me crazy, but I really believe that 50% of all yakezie members and 99% of yakezie challengers would sell if anyone came to them with something above 6 figures. Maybe it isn't the right choice to sell but that is a large sum of money for most people AND VERY HARD TO TURN DOWN if a check is sitting waiting for you.
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1:48 pm December 20, 2011
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MyJourneytoMillions said:
Elle said:
If there comes a time to sell Couple Money I'd look for 4x-6x annual income and decide on whether or not to start another personal finance blog.
To answer the thread's question about whether my blog would sell for $1 million that would be a no. Have to continue to put in some elbow grease in. :D
Elle that doesn't make sense at all. 4x annual income would mean that you have to be making more than $250K/yr? and 6x would mean that your income is more than $166K/yr. Right?
Call me crazy, but I really believe that 50% of all yakezie members and 99% of yakezie challengers would sell if anyone came to them with something above 6 figures. Maybe it isn't the right choice to sell but that is a large sum of money for most people AND VERY HARD TO TURN DOWN if a check is sitting waiting for you.
Isn't that like saying that all Yakezie members would sell their homes at a loss for $100k because $100k is a lot of money? The multiple doesn't seem all that unreasonable, so it would make sense someone would hold firm.
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3:06 pm December 20, 2011
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Post edited 4:29 am – December 21, 2011 by Elle
Call me crazy, but I really believe that 50% of all yakezie members and 99% of yakezie challengers would sell if anyone came to them with something above 6 figures. Maybe it isn't the right choice to sell but that is a large sum of money for most people AND VERY HARD TO TURN DOWN if a check is sitting waiting for you.
Maybe I wasn't clear with how I posted. What I'm saying is my minimum to consider selling Couple Money would be 4x-6x annual income. So if Couple Money brings in $20k/year, I'd think about my selling options if I received an offer for $80k-$120k.
The next paragraph was to address the actual question of the thread of whether Couple Money would sell for a million right now. I believe I have quite a ways to go before someone would offer that much to buy it. Sorry for the confusion Evan.
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8:48 pm December 20, 2011
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I have it on good authority that the multiples are higher. Elle makes great points about record keeping.
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4:42 am December 21, 2011
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6:35 am December 21, 2011
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I wonder if the multiples apply to direct revenue, or more so towards passive income. I have made some offers on blogs, and I have seen the smaller blogs using the same multiples of the larger ones. My issue with this is unpredictability with the smaller blogs (at least at a greater risk than the larger/aged ones)…and the income being all direct and little to none being passive. That's a lot of work. You would also need a big base of advertisers to make this effective and worth your time, and I would require a detailed list of all current advertisements and expirations. Not something I have received upon request from the last few I made offers on…which in the end is what holds me off on a higher price.
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6:53 am December 21, 2011
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The older, more established sites do sell for a bigger multiple than small ones. I'd guess the same applies to most businesses.
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7:46 am December 21, 2011
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Elle said:
The next paragraph was to address the actual question of the thread of whether Couple Money would sell for a million right now. I believe I have quite a ways to go before someone would offer that much to buy it. Sorry for the confusion Evan.
Ah that makes sense Elle!
JT_McGee said:
Isn't that like saying that all Yakezie members would sell their homes at a loss for $100k because $100k is a lot of money? The multiple doesn't seem all that unreasonable, so it would make sense someone would hold firm.
I am not sure if I think the multiple is or isn't reasonable but regardless it isn't the same because you are talking about a loss, most people started their blog for $60 bucks or less if they had a coupon code (or at least I did). Even if I took into account ALL the freelancers I ever hired and hosting which is now on a VPS, we are probably talking about 2 months income.
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5:56 pm December 21, 2011
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There's some days I think I could be had for pretty cheap. :-)
Just a guess, but I suspect that the more personality a blog has (versus more informatic, fact-based content) the harder the sale might be to a corporate buyer. Just like a walk-through a listed house, the first thing a real estate agent advises is to "declutter". Get rid of the personal knick-knacks, and make the appeal as wide as possible.
Just an opinion.
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1:17 pm December 23, 2011
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101 Centavos said:
There's some days I think I could be had for pretty cheap. :-)
Just a guess, but I suspect that the more personality a blog has (versus more informatic, fact-based content) the harder the sale might be to a corporate buyer. Just like a walk-through a listed house, the first thing a real estate agent advises is to "declutter". Get rid of the personal knick-knacks, and make the appeal as wide as possible.
Just an opinion.
Good point. If you think you might want to sell in the future, then it would make sense to write more genarically.
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1:51 pm December 23, 2011
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101 Centavos said:
There's some days I think I could be had for pretty cheap. :-)
Just a guess, but I suspect that the more personality a blog has (versus more informatic, fact-based content) the harder the sale might be to a corporate buyer. Just like a walk-through a listed house, the first thing a real estate agent advises is to "declutter". Get rid of the personal knick-knacks, and make the appeal as wide as possible.
Just an opinion.
But Andrew, isn't it a 30 mins job for the new owner to fit it in to his/her liking? I mean I know I can change your blog to my taste in in less than 30 mins..just for example..
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2:56 pm December 23, 2011
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I can't imagine my blog selling for even $1000. I wonder how many of those bloggers actually had this as part of the plan when they first started blogging. And I also wonder how many of them are already working to get another blog to that level….
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5:06 pm December 23, 2011
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Post edited 5:13 pm – December 23, 2011 by Financial Samurai
Fun topic guys. Here's the thing, you know how much a $1,000,000 sale nets you? It's not $1 million. You might get about $600,000-$800,000, depending on your current income, and state tax bill.
Don't be mesmerized by the money. Make it a goal to stick with your site for a minimum of 5 years, or 10 years, and I'm sure you'll have incredible opportunities.
$1 million is not $1 million. You have to look at the risk free rate of return in this environment + a premium, not selling based on yearly multiples imo.
If your site generates $100,000 a year, that takes $5 million in the bank at 2% risk free, and $2.5 million in the bank with a 2% effort premium over risk free to generate $100,000 a year.
Think longer term. If you have the time, and can buy sites for 1-2X annual revenue, you should be buying as many quality sites as you can. The key X factor is time.
Regards,
Sam
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