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HELP! My Content is being stolen like crazy!

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5:19 am
October 27, 2011


Glen Craig

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What are the names of those plug-ins?

 

RSS Footer

 

If you file a DMCA with Google, they will deindex the posts. I've had to do this a dozen times or more. It has worked every time.

 

@ Jeremy – Where are you filing?  From my experience, unless a site is violating big G's TOS, they expect you to file the DMCA with the host.

8:03 am
October 27, 2011


Jeremy @ Personal Finance Whiz

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Post edited 8:04 am – October 27, 2011 by Jeremy @ Personal Finance Whiz


Glen Craig – Free From Broke said:

 

@ Jeremy – Where are you filing?  From my experience, unless a site is violating big G's TOS, they expect you to file the DMCA with the host.

 

Go here: http://www.google.com/support/…..ts=1114905

Select on "Web Search"

Then select "I have a legal issue that is not mentioned above"

Then select "I have found content that may violate my copyright"

Finally select "Yes, I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed"

There will be a couple of other questions you need to answer. That will lead you to this form: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dmca-notice?pli=1&

Fill out that form and you should hear something back within a day or two. 

Here's the response from my most recent complaint:

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for reaching out to us.

In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have completed
processing your infringement complaint. The following webpages will be
removed from Google in a few hours:

http://currentsciencearticles

5:08 am
November 12, 2011


Tony Chou @ Investorz' Blog

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I'm having the same problem now. But I don't worry too much about it. They guy who's stealing my content is low PR, and no backlinks.

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6:15 am
November 12, 2011


Shannyn @FrugalBeautiful.com

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Do bloggers need to have a copyright notice on their blog to be somewhat protected?

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7:11 am
November 12, 2011


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Although your every post is copyright protected by default without any notice, I think we should have it mentioned on our blogs to keep ignorants out. 

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2:10 pm
November 13, 2011


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UPDATE: I used the links that Jeremy shared above. The content is no longer up! I had also contacted the webhost and they contacted the offending party. I'm not sure which one was successful, but definitely successful either way.

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5:54 pm
November 13, 2011


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Glad to hear everything got cleared up! I just started copyrighting my stuff actually, im sorry I waited so long.

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3:04 pm
December 12, 2011


retireby40

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This same guy, thathiren@gmail.com, is copying my posts to another site.

beatrice.zoko.in

 

Here is the whois info.

 

Tech Email:thathiren@gmail.com

Name Server:NS1.MD-9.WEBHOSTBOX.NET

Name Server:NS2.MD-9.WEBHOSTBOX.NET

 

I sent in the links to Google, but how do I find his hosting company? 

 

ZOKO.IN SITE INFORMATION

IP: 208.91.198.54
IP Location: Miami, United States
Website Status: active

 

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

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9:59 pm
December 12, 2011


Larry @ The Skilled Investor

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retireby40 said:

This same guy, thathiren@gmail.com, is copying my posts to another site.

beatrice.zoko.in

 

Here is the whois info.

 

Tech Email:thathiren@gmail.com

Name Server:NS1.MD-9.WEBHOSTBOX.NET

Name Server:NS2.MD-9.WEBHOSTBOX.NET

 

I sent in the links to Google, but how do I find his hosting company? 

 

ZOKO.IN SITE INFORMATION

IP: 208.91.198.54
IP Location: Miami, United States
Website Status: active

 

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

The same site is snagging some of my stuff. This "not so ethical person" is probably fishing for backlinks, since that is how I noticed the site when it popped up in my moderation queue.

My personal suggestion is not to worry about any of this. If you spend time on it there is no real benefit. Google is smart enough to figure out which site is stealing, and which is creating the content — especially if you use the copyright link pointer suggestion below.

If you look at this particular site, it is just a joke. Since the person did not bother to set the permalinks, you can tell that about 300 items have been stolen from elsewhere build this swell blog. The last several dozen stolen posts during the past week are sports related, so apparently this "person" might have found sports bloggers that will link back.

For automated feed stealing operations, you can use the Feed Footer plugin and just stick in a simple copyright notice that points back to your own site, such as:

Copyright <a href="http://www.YOURDOMAIN.com/">NAME OF YOUR SITE</a>

Then, when someone rips you off via automated feed publication, at least you would get a link back to your own material. If you tag the linking attempts as spam in Akismet or whatever comment spam filter you use, then you never have to waste your time thereafter.

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4:21 am
December 13, 2011


MoneyBeagle

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How do these people sleep at night?!?

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9:49 pm
December 13, 2011


Larry @ The Skilled Investor

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Post edited 9:50 pm – December 13, 2011 by Larry @ The Skilled Investor


They probably sleep pretty well, because it appears automated. I got curious and against my own advice started wasting some time on this to figure out what was going on.

While the site seems to be beatrice.zoko.in, if you strip off the "beatrice" and do a Google site:zoko.in search, you find that Google indexes 8,670 pages. Yet there is nothing at the domain URL, which is "under construction."

However, Google indicates an endless list of different "firstname".zoko.in subdomains with the same rudimentary WordPress installation for each name. For example: beatrice.zoko.in, annette.zoko.in, denis.zoko.in, darko.zoko.in, joel.zoko.in, ester.zoko.in, and on and on.

So this person is just autostripping RSS feeds and fishing for links back. Alexa is 763K and Alexa indicates that 125 sites are linking in, so this is certainly "working" thusfar.

Even if one person files a DMCA and gets his stuff taken off, that would only be a slight dent. This site has not apparently tried to monetize anything yet. I looked at Google and Google seems uninterested in being told about these things. So at the end of all of this, it is just of waste of time dealing with this.

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8:40 am
December 14, 2011


retireby40

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Here is what I got from the Google team. Thanks for nothing Google Team.

 

Hello,

Thanks for reaching out to us.

We have received and reviewed your DMCA complaint. At this time, Google
has decided not to take action based on our policies concerning content
removal. As always, we encourage you to resolve any disputes directly with
the owner of the website in question.

If you pursue legal action against this site that results in the removal
of the offending material, our search results will display this change
after we next crawl the site. If the webmaster makes these changes and you
need us to expedite the removal of the cached copy, please submit your
request using our webpage removal request tool at
http://www.google.com/webmaste…..s/removals

Regards,

The Google Team

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10:09 am
December 14, 2011


Jeff @ Sustainable Life Blog

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That stinks joe – And Thanks for all this copyright info – I should probably look into this more.

Jeff 

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1:12 pm
December 14, 2011


Larry @ The Skilled Investor

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Post edited 1:14 pm – December 14, 2011 by Larry @ The Skilled Investor


retireby40's reply from Google is in line with what I found on the Google site about these matters. In fact, if you follow the Google site reporting tree to the logical destinations, you also find that Google copies all such reports that it gets to chillingeffects.org. But, it does not seem that chillingeffects.org will do anything, because they are part of the Electronic Frontier foundation and their mission, in part, is to prevent the abuse of DMCA to suppress content on the web.

If someone really wants to pull the plug on this site and takes it to the ISP, then the site will just move to a different ISP. DMCA will only remove the material of the site complaining and only that is if zoko.in responds. Since the site is in the .in domain is managed by NIXI in India, DMCA is pretty useless.

Probably the most effective long-term strategy to shut down these thieves entirely is simply to wait to see if they try to monetize the site. Since by using stolen content, they would automatically violate the TOS of any advertizer, those ads would not last long.

THE REAL PROBLEM, HOWEVER, IS THAT BLOGGERS ARE CARELESS BY APPROVING SPAM LINKBACKS!

Of the 125 linkbacks to zoko.in, Alexa lists linkbacks from the top 100 websites. I just analyzed the top 100 list and stripped out the non-financial links which left 33 financially oriented sites linking to zoko.in. Although I am new to Yakezie, I recognize a lot of Yakezie sites on the list below.

If Yakezie bloggers want to take away the incentive for people to steal their content, then they should stop handing out free linkbacks to illegitimate websites. Bloggers need to pay attention to whether they are providing a linkback to a legitimate site when they moderate comments. When in doubt, look at the site before approving the linkback. If the site is smelly, classify the link request as a spam link.

Also, if you see your site listed below (some are listed more than once), you could/should go in and remove the linkback that you have already granted by reclassifying it as spam. Just find your permalink below and bring up your page. Then, open the page html source in your browser, and search for "zoko". Then, find the link you already approved in your comments list, but don't just delete it. Instead, indicate that it is spam. The only reason why I even remember zoko.in, was that Akismet listed it as a potentially legitimate comment rather than spam. I checked it out and spammed the comment. If a lot of bloggers do this, then Akismet is much more likely classify zoko.in as spam across all blogs, and that would help to bring an end to
this site.

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ibankcoin.com
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onecentatatime.com
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sustainablepersonalfinance.com
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financiallyconsumed.com
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onemoneydesign.com
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mybanktracker.com
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freemoneywisdom.com
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financialhighway.com
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squirrelers.com
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thepennyhoarder.com
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darwinsmoney.com
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thepassiveincomeearner.com
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smartfamilyfinance.com
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sustainablelifeblog.com
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investinthemarkets.com
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silverunderground.com
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9:09 am
December 15, 2011


Miss T @ Prairie Eco-Thrifter

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Thanks for the heads up Skilled Investor and congrats Corey for getting your problem fixed.

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11:48 am
December 15, 2011


20s Finances

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Joe, I submitted a claim to google too. Hopefully I will get a different response.

 

@Larry, I agree. I always make sure to spam this stuff. I don't want people getting free links from me that aren't genuine people. Thanks for doing the research.

 

retireby40 said:

Here is what I got from the Google team. Thanks for nothing Google Team.

 

Hello,

Thanks for reaching out to us.

We have received and reviewed your DMCA complaint. At this time, Google
has decided not to take action based on our policies concerning content
removal. As always, we encourage you to resolve any disputes directly with
the owner of the website in question.

If you pursue legal action against this site that results in the removal
of the offending material, our search results will display this change
after we next crawl the site. If the webmaster makes these changes and you
need us to expedite the removal of the cached copy, please submit your
request using our webpage removal request tool at
http://www.google.com/webmaste…..s/removals

Regards,

The Google Team

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3:05 pm
December 15, 2011


retireby40

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Thanks Larry!

I removed that link on my site. Usually I don't approve links like that.

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3:48 pm
December 15, 2011


20s Finances

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posts 1147

I had submitted 3 different pages from zoko.in through google's DMCA form and I just heard back from google: 

 

Hello,

Thanks for reaching out to us.

In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have completed
processing your infringement complaint. The following webpages will be
removed from Google in a few hours:

http://daniel.zoko.in/?p=244
http://daniel.zoko.in/?p=269
http://daniel.zoko.in/?p=328

Please let us know if we can assist you further.

Regards,

The Google Team

 

It doesn't seem to be resolving the entire issue, but it's a start.

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8:58 am
December 16, 2011


LaTisha @YoungFinances

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The crazy thing is, sometimes it's hard to catch all of the trackbacks if you are only paying attention to the title of the link or the wording in the trackback.

spammers will often clone a trackback that you are expecting, like one from a carnival or recognized website title.

now I look at the url that it is coming from only.

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10:39 am
December 16, 2011


formerbanker

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The URL never lies!

I've also noticed trackbacks that look like carnival links that have been put through a spinner. I control my comments pretty tightly to avoid handing out links to undeserving spammers.

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