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9:03 am January 27, 2012
| sensetosave
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Some details: my husband and I are both 26, and have a 3-year-old and a 1-year old. We have one debt, our mortgage, with a balance of like $131k (just got it in September). It's a 30-year, 4.5% deal.
But, we have an awesome tax credit, the Mortgage Credit Certificate, and we'll get a 20% tax credit on the amount of mortgage interest we pay each year. In 2012 it looks like we'll spend about $5k on mortgage interest, and we'll get about $11-1200 off our federal taxes for that.
The credit is good for the life of the loan.
We have a 6-month emergency fund, and are putting about 15% of our gross toward retirement. We are NOT maxing out both of our Roth IRAs (just one). We're putting 6% into his 401k and there's a 3% match, so about 18% gross going toward retirement.
We want to put money aside for our kids' college funds. Here in Indiana, we get a sweet 20% tax credit on our contributions to the state's 529 plan, so we put in $1,000, we get $200 off our state taxes.
My question for you is — how would you prioritize extra money? Should we try and max out our IRAs while we're young and let compound interest do its thing? (We have about $45k in retirement accounts right now).
Speed up the mortgage payoff?
Hit the 529s hard?
I think we can do a little bit of all 3, but how would you prioritize?
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9:05 am January 27, 2012
| sensetosave
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Oh, I should add that we are not paying PMI, so accelerating the mortgage payoff wouldn't eliminate PMI, as it doesn't exist.
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9:58 am January 27, 2012
| Jason@LiveRealNow
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I'd max out the retirement accounts, first, mortgage second, college accounts last.
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10:14 am January 27, 2012
| sensetosave
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So contribute nothing at all to the mortgage or college accounts until we're doing $10k/year in the IRAs? Or do you also mean maxing out the 401k too?
I hate to leave money on the table in the form of the tax credit for the college accounts
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10:59 am January 27, 2012
| Jason@LiveRealNow
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sensetosave said:
So contribute nothing at all to the mortgage or college accounts until we're doing $10k/year in the IRAs? Or do you also mean maxing out the 401k too?
I hate to leave money on the table in the form of the tax credit for the college accounts
If you've got it available, I'd max out all of the retirement accounts before either extra mortgage payments or the college fund. Anything left, I'd split between the mortgage and the college fund, but probably a 70/30 split favoring the mortgage.
It sounds cold, but your kids will have their entire lives to cover their student loans. It's hard to make up retirement fund contributions.
Also, even if you're not able to help until it's too late to prepay college, you could help with their loans after they have graduated.
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11:05 am January 27, 2012
| sensetosave
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My husband and I didn't have student loans, and we're hoping we can help our kids get a start in life like we did. I think that's part of why we're at where we are now — it's hard to make progress when you have gobs of student loan debt!
We have about $4k to go before we're maxing out both Roths. That might take awhile to get to that point.
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9:13 pm January 27, 2012
| retireby40
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I would increase the retirement contribution first, then 529.
If you have extra money left after that, then pay down mortgage.
In 10 years, the $700 mortgage payment will feel like nothing (inflation.)
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3:45 pm January 28, 2012
| Daisy
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Like retireby40, I would start with the retirement, but then I would pay down the mortgage. Mortgages are pretty heavy on interest and depending on how fast you can pay it down, it could really benefit you in the long run.
That's my two cents :)
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5:15 am January 29, 2012
| Smart Wealth
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I agree with the last two posters, retirement first, then 529.
Looks like you guys have things pretty well together though, it's really great to only have one debt (mortgage) looking forward to hopefully getting there this year.
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11:31 am January 30, 2012
| Eric – PersonalProfitability.com
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I like some other ideas I have read. Here are my thoughts:
1. Max out the Roth (you are young and will get a longer term benefit from this)
2. Split the difference with the mortgage and the college accounts. If you kids go to private schools without scholarships, you will need up to $320,000 at current cost rates. If you plan to pay for everything, I would put at least enough for in state tuition+fees for Indiana.
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12:47 pm January 30, 2012
| Jeff @ Sustainable Life Blog
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I think that a maxed out roth should be a priority as well – though you dont reveal your income situation, you could end up hitting the income cap for IRA's sometime in the future, making you unable to contribute to that account as well. Also (dont quote me on this) but I think you can use Roths for "qualified education expenses" – not sure if that's just you, or your children as well.
I'd go for the 529s next, then the home note.
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2:12 pm January 30, 2012
| sensetosave
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Jeff– I think it will be awhile before we make too much for the Roths. If ever. Our 2011 gross is looking like it was a pinch under $80k.
I think you all are giving good advice on the Roth, since we're only able to contribute $10k per year, and we could access that money if we really really needed to.
It's hard to pull the trigger on that though. I do like the thought of putting some extra toward the mortgage because we are so dang early in the amortization period, it will really add up.
Same with the 529s. Didn't seem like anyone was impressed with the 20% tax credit we'll get on our contributions. To me that is huge!
I'll have to talk some more with my husband about just what we'll do. I wish we could do it all, but we're still a ways off from being able to do that one.
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12:14 am January 31, 2012
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Everyone else pretty much nailed it, but I just wanted to add that the Roth IRA is your opportunity now that will go away when your income reaches a certain maximum. So take advantage of it now!
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9:25 am January 31, 2012
| Michelle (Making Sense of Cents)
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I would start with the retirement accounts and then the mortgage, purely because of the compounding effect.
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7:49 am February 1, 2012
| PK @ DQYDJ
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You're young and $80,000 is a good income – I'm with the others on making the Roth a priority. The Roth phases out at $169,000 in 2011, so it's possible (likely, even) that one day you won't have that option… plus if you'll be in a higher tax bracket at retirement you'll be happy you put money into the Roth now.
Is your 401(k) capturing the full match? 6% contribution with a 50% match is what it looks like.
I'd leave the mortgage alone. It's costing you 4.5%*.8 = 3.6% a year after tax benefits (after tax because if you invest in retirement accounts compounding is tax free).
So, for now, leave the mortgage, pile into the retirement accounts… and wait. I wouldn't worry about the 529s until you were fully contributing to your own retirement. It's better to make your kids pay for their school than your retirement (if it comes down to that rough choice).
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7:34 am February 7, 2012
| cbhattarai
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One of the most basic ting is that ask your husbant to payoff all the Debt before…
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