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9:30 am
June 3, 2014
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Jackie
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Post edited 9:33 am – June 3, 2014 by Jackie
Derek@LifeAndMyFinances said:
Update: I just discovered that Google has denied my reconsideration request on May 22. Here is their reason:
"Unnatural links from your site: Google detected a pattern of unnatural, artificial, deceptive, or manipulative outbound links on pages on this site. This may be the result of selling links that pass PageRank or participating in link schemes."
I don't get it. Any "unnatural" link that I have ever placed on my site has either been deleted or no-followed. The only other thing I can think of is the affiliate program that I have partnered with: "Ebuzzing". For them to control the ads, I have placed a code in my footer which allows them the power to update and remove various ads. Do you think this could be the culprit?
–Derek
No idea about Ezbuzzing, but:
- Did they give you any examples of links they view as unnatural? If so I might be able to make suggestions.
- When you submitted your reconsideration request, did you include every link you nofollowed, the date you did so, and did you promise not to violate their terms of service? (Sounds crazy but "I'm sorry I'll never do it again" if you did something you knew violated their terms or "I didn't understand but now I've got it and won't do it again" if you didn't, seems to be a requirement for getting unblocked.)
- Have you ever traded links with someone? (ie, "Hey can you link to my keyword phrase x, and I'll link to your keyword Y?") If so that could be an issue.
Also give it some time before you re-submit another reconsideration request. I read somewhere (maybe on a google blog?) that they think it should be hard to get penalties removed and take a lot of time and work.
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9:42 am
June 3, 2014
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Derek@LifeAndMyFinances
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Jackie, no they did not give any examples. The message I displayed in this forum was the only direction I have received. I did not give details about which links I have no-followed. The list would have been rather lengthy since I went back to 2011. Perhaps just giving an admission of violation will be enough to sway them? I really have no idea what else I can do at this point. I have changed everything I can possibly think of that might be in violation.
-Derek
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8:16 pm
June 3, 2014
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debt debs
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Jackie said:
debt debs said:
What does the term "Do Follow" mean? Is it the same as "Follow"? 
"Do Follow" and "Follow" links are just a fancy way of saying regular links. In other words, links that are not tagged with nofollow. I would only nofollow paid links, links within sponsored posts (because those are paid links) and links people email you asking "hey could you nofollow or remove my link?" (because they are probably trying to get out from under Google's thumb.)
Thanks, Jackie! Clear! 
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5:11 pm
June 4, 2014
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Jackie
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Derek@LifeAndMyFinances said:
Jackie, no they did not give any examples. The message I displayed in this forum was the only direction I have received. I did not give details about which links I have no-followed. The list would have been rather lengthy since I went back to 2011. Perhaps just giving an admission of violation will be enough to sway them? I really have no idea what else I can do at this point. I have changed everything I can possibly think of that might be in violation.
-Derek
I would try giving them a list of the links you've nofollowed, promising to follow their guidelines, and saying that you've changed everything you can possibly think of that might be in violation. (Maybe that way if it's not enough, they will give you some hints as to what they think is wrong.)
What else…
I can't remember if you have multiple blogs or not, but if you do and you're linking to/between them (which is totally the most natural thing in the world to do!) it's highly likely Google will consider those unnatural links.
If you're linking to highly searched for phrases in a suspicious way (like "best insurance rates"), to the same sites over and over again, or sitewide those could be raising flags.
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11:23 am
June 5, 2014
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Barbara Friedberg
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TAlk with Amanda at Frugal Confessions. She had the same problem and got it resolved.
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11:33 am
June 5, 2014
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Barbara Friedberg
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frugaling said:
Debs,
Wikipedia isn't bad at all. NoFollow is a tag that you place on HTML links.
For instance, here's a link to wikipedia:
<a href="http://www.wikipedia.org">Wikipedia</a>
And with a NoFollow tag:
<a href="http://www.wikipedia.org" rel="NoFollow">Wikipedia</a>
All the NoFollow tag is saying is that Google (or another search engine) shouldn't follow the link to see where it goes. There robots that scour the Internet will not count that as a link out.
NoFollow is only really needed when you're linking to something sponsored or ad-like. I use NoFollow for affiliate links. You don't need NoFollow for Wikipedia.
Matt Cutts explained it pretty well in this video:
Can nofollow links hurt my site's ranking?
Hope this helps!
Sam
Hey Sam,
Great info.
I have an affiliate banner on my site for Amazon. Where the heck would you put the no follow tag on this code?
<iframe style="border: none;" src="http://rcm-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/cm?t=barbfrieper07-20&o=1&p=12&l=ur1&category=ce521_615fathersday&banner=0FK3JZDGBAA1562M8A02&f=ifr&lc=pf4&linkID=ZTGJIEFBJFUTZXVX" height="250" width="300" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>
Thanks so much, Barb
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9:30 am
June 6, 2014
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Jake@iHeartBudgets.net
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Yeah, don't play dumb. Just say something like "I have no-followed all the violating links. I now know that selling links is against policy and will not do it again from here forward. Please reconsider my request"
They know what's up. But on the affiliate links, even if it's NOT a paid link, you should 'nofollow' all sidebar and banner links, just in case. Their algorithm may have accidentally flagged one of those.
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12:21 pm
June 6, 2014
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Jake@iHeartBudgets.net said:
Yeah, don't play dumb. Just say something like "I have no-followed all the violating links. I now know that selling links is against policy and will not do it again from here forward. Please reconsider my request"
They know what's up. But on the affiliate links, even if it's NOT a paid link, you should 'nofollow' all sidebar and banner links, just in case. Their algorithm may have accidentally flagged one of those.
It's nice that everyone is helpful with suggestions…but guys, let's be serious for a moment…do you really think that google assigns people to read through each carefully crafted remediation request? You can keep thinking so, but its not the case. How many sites per day do you think get dinged?? hundreds…thousands? multiple that by 365 days a year and I think they probably have a pretty automated way of doing this.
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5:03 pm
June 6, 2014
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Post edited 5:04 pm – June 6, 2014 by Edwin C @ Cash The Checks
One of my blogs got hit a few months ago, I just cleaned it up thoroughly, submitted a reconsideration request and was successful.
If you were denied, wait 2+ weeks before submitting another request again.
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10:09 am
June 7, 2014
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Jackie
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MoneyIsTheRoot said:
It's nice that everyone is helpful with suggestions…but guys, let's be serious for a moment…do you really think that google assigns people to read through each carefully crafted remediation request? You can keep thinking so, but its not the case. How many sites per day do you think get dinged?? hundreds…thousands? multiple that by 365 days a year and I think they probably have a pretty automated way of doing this.
For the sites that have been given manual penalties, I think they do. Either that or Google is a lot further along in machine-learning than I ever imagined :)
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5:06 am
July 21, 2014
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Derek@LifeAndMyFinances
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Update: So I have removed and no-followed all of the suspicious links that I could find on my site and have put in my reconsideration request 4 times – all with the same message back – "Sorry, but you are still in violation of the guidelines…" I have admitted fault, have not taken on any more ads, have detailed what I have done to adhere to the guidelines, and I am simply out of ideas. Any more advice for this lost soul?
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12:12 pm
July 21, 2014
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debt debs
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Post edited 12:13 pm – July 21, 2014 by debt debs
Derek@LifeAndMyFinances said:
Update: So I have removed and no-followed all of the suspicious links that I could find on my site and have put in my reconsideration request 4 times – all with the same message back – "Sorry, but you are still in violation of the guidelines…" I have admitted fault, have not taken on any more ads, have detailed what I have done to adhere to the guidelines, and I am simply out of ideas. Any more advice for this lost soul?
Just read this today, does this help you Derek?:
momoneymohouses.com/dangers-selling-links-blog-money/
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1:17 am
August 24, 2014
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Post edited 1:18 am – August 24, 2014 by Derek@LifeAndMyFinances
Update: As of August 22, the manual action against my site has been dropped! It took 5 reconsideration requests, but my site is now more healthy than ever and has regained its PageRank 3 status. Thanks for the help everyone!
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5:26 am
August 24, 2014
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Awesome Derek, so happy for you!
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7:28 pm
August 24, 2014
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ChristenWypy
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There are scripts you can use to make every link on your blog no follow. I did this. My site is a blogger one but I know this can be done for wordpress and others as well.
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