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9:13 am November 16, 2012
| LaTisha @YoungFinances
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So… I just moved all comments from Wordpress to Disqus because it seems to be easier to keep the conversation going that way. Commenters can now subscribe to the comments only, reply via Twitter and vote up or down comments.
The only drawback seems to be the loss of linked commenters. So if you have a disqus account, I recommend you login and allow them to merge your comments into your Disqus account. This will pull in any comments you've made on blogs that didn't have disqus installed but now do.
Thoughts on Disqus? Like or dislike, easy or hard to use?
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10:03 am November 16, 2012
| MoneyBeagle
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Post edited 10:04 am – November 16, 2012 by MoneyBeagle
Not to sound overly harsh, but I personally detest this system, and I will leave less comments (many times none) on sites that convert to it.
Here is my rationale for anti-Disqus:
1. I think the value of leaving your website and allowing a click-through is too high to simply abandon. Others may disagree on the value or consider it self serving, but I place importance. Here's why: I've found many 'favorites' from people that started leaving comments on my blog that I later tracked by clicking on the link to their site. Similarly, I've been on other sites and found a great comment which led me to a great blog, and I also appreciate the ability to have traffic directed my way if someone (author or reader) finds my comment engaging on another site.
2. I have a Disqus account that is tied to my personal name and e-mail address, because a couple of the local newspaper websites have this setup. I don't want to comment on my local papers as Money Beagle and don't want to comment on blogs with my 'name' so I would have to log out and back in with multiple profiles.
It's a personal preference and I understand each site owner has their own considerations to make, but it's one of the things that I feel strongly enough about that I will share when asked for feedback. One of my favorite bloggers made the switch to this, and after soliciting feedback, I gave it to him. He did a survey and got enough negative responses that he switched back.
Good luck either way!
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10:50 am November 16, 2012
| sooverthis
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I always really liked Disqus, but my readers hated it. I used to get at least one complaint a week via email. Since I switched to IntenseDebate, I haven't really heard much. It allows name/email/URL just like regular WP comments so people seem to handle it okay.
I'm using standard WP comments on the business blog now, but only because I took a ton of time to style them so they didn't look like crap. That's my whole problem with WP comments in general; they tend to look awful.
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10:57 am November 16, 2012
| Jennifer Lynn
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Any comment system that forces log-in, attempts to link social accounts, disallows anonymous commenting, or hides an inputted website URL is pretty sucky, in my opinion. I run far, far away.
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12:30 pm November 16, 2012
| Edward Antrobus
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I started out with Disqus for several reasons. Yeah, the ability to respond via email is nice, but that's about all it has going for it in my book. When I migrated to Wordpress from Blogger, Disqus actually broke the CSS styling of If You Can Read, You Can Cook. That's when I got rid of it, because the basic WP comments look a lot better than a giant black box at the bottom of each page.
Two other things I haven't been able to figure out how to do is change my Disqus profile. It still says "Edward – Entry Level Dilemma" from when I wrote about jobs, which I stopped doing a year ago. It probably links to that now-nonexistent blog still. The other thing I can't figure out is how to unsubscribe to comments! Two years ago, I commented on a post that I thought was utter feel-good BS and basically said as much. It is still getting about a comment per month with commenters agreeing with the post and talking about how "thought-provoking" and "true" it was.
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3:10 pm November 16, 2012
| LaTisha @YoungFinances
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Hmm.. I seem to remember them allowing just a name to leave a comment. If it doesn't that does seem a bit restrictive.
It's important for me to make it easy for visitors to comment..
Ok I just figured it out, you have to allow 'guest commenters'. So now you can leave a comment without having to login.
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4:07 pm November 16, 2012
| Eric J. Nisall
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Post edited 4:09 pm – November 16, 2012 by Eric J. Nisall
Yeah, but there isn't a place for commenters to input their website and have it link to their name. If you downgrade away from the 2012 update, you'll get that functionality back, ut at the same time you lose all of the fancy new features so it's a catch-22.
To be blunt, I think that voicing an opinion and being engaging is worth so much more than a simple link that it really shouldn't matter. In terms of having to register, I'd much rather do that and never have to log back in or re-type/semi -auto-fill my info every time I go to a site to comment. Plus, like Andrea said, some sites using WP comments without any css looks so bad, and even worse is the fact that you can't respond to someone directly in many of the current implementations.
That being said, I comment wherever I have something to say regardless of the comment system and don't really think twice about how I have to get it done, as long as I can say what is on my mind.
Besides, there's always going to be someone who has a problem regardless of what you do or how you set it up
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6:06 pm November 16, 2012
| First Million is the Hardest
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I'm not a fan of Disqus for many of the same reasons listed already. I really dont want to register/link my social accounts just to leave a comment on a post. Its much easier with the typical wordpress/form commenting system to have my info autofilled and just type what I have to say.
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7:14 am November 17, 2012
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Post edited 7:16 am – November 17, 2012 by Financial Samurai
Disqus seems OK. I never comment anymore via mobile if there is a disqus site bc of the reigistration or perceived cumberness of it. With WP comments, my name and email are prepopulated at least (URL never sticks). Makes it easier to comment like i am now with my mobile.
I haven't changed my comment system on FS for 3.5 years and so far, so good. Might not be the prettiest, but it's good enough and the only inquiries is when a comment goes to spam.
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12:09 pm November 17, 2012
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Post edited 12:10 pm – November 17, 2012 by Hank Coleman
I'm not a fan of Disqus at all for all of the reasons that most people have listed already. I leave far fewer comments on sites with the system.
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5:50 pm November 17, 2012
| LaTisha @YoungFinances
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Hmm.. All valid points. So I guess now the goal is to write more engaging posts that draw in commenters. I also agree that the conversation is more important than a simple link back. It's pretty frustrating to see 'great post!' and a one line sentence. But then that also rests on me to write more thought provoking content.
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5:56 pm November 17, 2012
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Eric J. Nisall said:
Yeah, but there isn't a place for commenters to input their website and have it link to their name. If you downgrade away from the 2012 update, you'll get that functionality back, at at the same time you lose all of the fancy new features so it's a catch-22.
The 'discovery box' was really what sold me back into Disqus. I had it before but removed it after complaints. But this snazzy new box that claims to increase engagement, well I'm all over that. Plus if a reader that is not a blogger wants to comment they won't have a problem with the link issue. I personally don't have a problem with it either. Most comments are no follow anyway so unless you are the first commenter no one is reading your comment or clicking through your link. You can check your G Analytics for that. But with Disqus you get the most recent comment at the top with keeps the conversation going. Engagement in 2013.
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7:33 pm November 17, 2012
| Edward Antrobus
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LaTisha @YoungFinances said:
Most comments are no follow anyway so unless you are the first commenter no one is reading your comment or clicking through your link. You can check your G Analytics for that. But with Disqus you get the most recent comment at the top with keeps the conversation going. Engagement in 2013.
Actually, the top two referrers to my site are both blogs that I comment on heavily. Both give me more traffic than Google!
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6:01 pm November 18, 2012
| Eric J. Nisall
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LaTisha @YoungFinances said:
Eric J. Nisall said:
Yeah, but there isn't a place for commenters to input their website and have it link to their name. If you downgrade away from the 2012 update, you'll get that functionality back, at at the same time you lose all of the fancy new features so it's a catch-22.
The 'discovery box' was really what sold me back into Disqus. I had it before but removed it after complaints. But this snazzy new box that claims to increase engagement, well I'm all over that. Plus if a reader that is not a blogger wants to comment they won't have a problem with the link issue. I personally don't have a problem with it either. Most comments are no follow anyway so unless you are the first commenter no one is reading your comment or clicking through your link. You can check your G Analytics for that. But with Disqus you get the most recent comment at the top with keeps the conversation going. Engagement in 2013.
The engagement factor is exactly why I leave comments; if I have nothing to say other than "great article" or whatever, I don't bother. If I get a link back, fine. If I get a "follow" link, even better. But I'm more interested in engaging with people, which is probably why my comments sometimes look more like mini-articles.
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6:02 pm November 18, 2012
| Eric J. Nisall
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Edward Antrobus said:
LaTisha @YoungFinances said:
Most comments are no follow anyway so unless you are the first commenter no one is reading your comment or clicking through your link. You can check your G Analytics for that. But with Disqus you get the most recent comment at the top with keeps the conversation going. Engagement in 2013.
Actually, the top two referrers to my site are both blogs that I comment on heavily. Both give me more traffic than Google!
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing
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8:34 pm November 18, 2012
| Edward Antrobus
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I made that same comment to one of those referrers! I do know that I have to get my Google up.
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If You Can Read, You Can Cook – http://www.ifyoucanread.com | Think you can't cook? If you can read this sentence, then you can.
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2:32 pm November 19, 2012
| LaTisha @YoungFinances
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Yeah you do have a habit of writing books. lol
So far I haven't gotten any complaints with the new system and I seem to be getting return visitors when they're notified that someone has replied. Also, if you set up your profile with your link people can still click through to your site.
Eric J. Nisall said:
LaTisha @YoungFinances said:
Eric J. Nisall said:
Yeah, but there isn't a place for commenters to input their website and have it link to their name. If you downgrade away from the 2012 update, you'll get that functionality back, at at the same time you lose all of the fancy new features so it's a catch-22.
The 'discovery box' was really what sold me back into Disqus. I had it before but removed it after complaints. But this snazzy new box that claims to increase engagement, well I'm all over that. Plus if a reader that is not a blogger wants to comment they won't have a problem with the link issue. I personally don't have a problem with it either. Most comments are no follow anyway so unless you are the first commenter no one is reading your comment or clicking through your link. You can check your G Analytics for that. But with Disqus you get the most recent comment at the top with keeps the conversation going. Engagement in 2013.
The engagement factor is exactly why I leave comments; if I have nothing to say other than "great article" or whatever, I don't bother. If I get a link back, fine. If I get a "follow" link, even better. But I'm more interested in engaging with people, which is probably why my comments sometimes look more like mini-articles.
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2:36 pm November 19, 2012
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Direct traffic is preferred over Google traffic in the sense that those people are your loyal readers that probably have you bookmarked.
But on the other hand search traffic is important because if you are under 100,000 page views a day, then you do not have an audience large enough to justify direct traffic only.
If your top two referrers are other websites and your traffic is relatively low (below 10k uniques per month) then yes, I would agree that you should focus more on getting search traffic.
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3:37 pm November 19, 2012
| First Million is the Hardest
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Edward Antrobus said:
LaTisha @YoungFinances said:
Most comments are no follow anyway so unless you are the first commenter no one is reading your comment or clicking through your link. You can check your G Analytics for that. But with Disqus you get the most recent comment at the top with keeps the conversation going. Engagement in 2013.
Actually, the top two referrers to my site are both blogs that I comment on heavily. Both give me more traffic than Google!
I also see pretty good traffic from some larger blogs that I comment on somewhat regularly. Its not a main source of traffic, but its not negligible either.
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10:49 pm November 19, 2012
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I've never tried Disqus on my site and don't have any plans to switch to it.
I'm not a fan of Disqus when I want to leave comments on other people's sites, but I'll find a way to comment if I have something to say, esp since a lot of blogs use it.
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