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1:42 pm June 16, 2011
| The Saved Quarter
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As I've been going through June Build Your Blog month and visiting all the Yakezie members and challengers, I'm noticing that many of the blogs the list aren't really participating in Yakezie. They don't have a badge, I don't see them on the forums (and I'm a stalker!), and their sites don't appear to be promoting other Yakezie members. I know that this group is all on the honor system, but I'm wondering: at what point are they removed from the list of challengers, and do people get removed from the list of members if they're no longer participating?
I created the list of challengers and members to give us all a quick reference place to go to promote one another, but there are so many of us and I'd rather that list contain only those who are active, so we are best able to spend our reading and promoting time on blogs that are participating.
Should I sent an e-mail to blogs that don't appear to be participating anymore before removing them? Or just remove them and let them add themselves back in if they decide to rejoin?
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2:31 pm June 16, 2011
| The College Investor
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The Saved Quarter said:
As I've been going through June Build Your Blog month and visiting all the Yakezie members and challengers, I'm noticing that many of the blogs the list aren't really participating in Yakezie. They don't have a badge, I don't see them on the forums (and I'm a stalker!), and their sites don't appear to be promoting other Yakezie members. I know that this group is all on the honor system, but I'm wondering: at what point are they removed from the list of challengers, and do people get removed from the list of members if they're no longer participating?
I created the list of challengers and members to give us all a quick reference place to go to promote one another, but there are so many of us and I'd rather that list contain only those who are active, so we are best able to spend our reading and promoting time on blogs that are participating.
Should I sent an e-mail to blogs that don't appear to be participating anymore before removing them? Or just remove them and let them add themselves back in if they decide to rejoin?
I sent Sam an email yesterday with some thoughts, but we all know how busy he is. I think we should remove non-participating challengers if we reach out to them and they don't change.
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3:55 pm June 16, 2011
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Yeah I think if we just ask them if they are still interested in participating, they will either say yes or no. Then, at that point, we can decide
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4:11 pm June 16, 2011
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Post edited 4:12 pm – June 16, 2011 by JT_McGee
I haven't been here for long, and I'm still a challenger. I realize that, and I'm not trying to butt in on the game here, BUT…
This is probably just the beginning.
Realistically, there are X number of Yakezie bloggers and a small percentage of X number of Yakezie bloggers post publicly their earnings. I'm not at all saying that this is a bad thing, or that somehow they shouldn't be allowed to do so (I think these posts are as interesting as all get out) but they will attract people who realize that Yakezie is a central exchange for high-value link advertising. That's just the reality of it. They'd attract these types even if they didn't post publicly their earnings…it's pretty easy to figure out who is cleaning up and who isn't. :P
Realistically, an Alexa of 200k is a really easy way to make $100+/mo tapping Yakezie link deals. In this economy, and with the general entrepreneurship abilities/desires of the PF community, that looks pretty attractive.
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4:19 pm June 16, 2011
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I'll start e-mailing bloggers that don't appear to be participating, or who are missing badges, and will remove those that don't respond. Trying to visit all of the Yakezie blogs takes a good amount of time and it's helpful to have the list accurate so I know who to promote in network!
JT, was this a response for another topic? I don't understand the earnings connection here.
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4:23 pm June 16, 2011
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The Saved Quarter said:
JT, was this a response for another topic? I don't understand the earnings connection here.
I was just saying that if people see that there is a lot of money to be made as a Yakezie blogger, then they're going to join Yakezie.
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4:40 pm June 16, 2011
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Post edited 4:40 pm – June 16, 2011 by Buck Inspire
Hey Penny,
Thanks for cleaning up the list. There are sooo many Yakezie members and challengers. This would help quite a bit!
JT,
Good point, if something smells good, you're bound to attract some riff raff. Such is life.
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4:40 pm June 16, 2011
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Right, I see now.
What I'm talking about is people who sign up and then never participate, not people who sign up for the wrong reasons (if blogging and signing up for monetary gain is wrong.) I mean those who don't place a badge, don't promote others, don't do anything with the group but still get the Alexa boost of members/challengers visiting their sites from the Yakezie list.
If people sign up and participate solely for their own financial gain, well, I'm sure there will be some who do that, but if they're involved in this community, they're selflessly helping others while they're at it.
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5:07 pm June 16, 2011
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That's a good question. i think that inactive members of the Yakezie should be dropped after a 6 month period. That is just my two cents. The final solution will come from Sam.
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7:04 pm June 16, 2011
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I've weeded down the list at my site based on whether they have a badge and have been posting at least 2 times a week. I love the idea of cutting out the non-participators too.
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7:16 pm June 16, 2011
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Might be worth modifying the BoH script. If people don't participate, they could lose points over time. It'd also be nice to scrape every site in the network and dock their BoH score by 100 points every week there's no badge. No badge, no participation, no benefits.
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12:08 am June 17, 2011
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Jason@LiveRealNow said:
Might be worth modifying the BoH script. If people don't participate, they could lose points over time. It'd also be nice to scrape every site in the network and dock their BoH score by 100 points every week there's no badge. No badge, no participation, no benefits.
I like the idea of modifying the belts of honor. There could also be something like no comments or forum participation in 6 months, you lose points. 0 points and you're out.
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7:20 am June 17, 2011
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As a start:
The badge is the first requirement – if there is no badge just drop them from lists?
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9:30 am June 17, 2011
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Post edited 9:41 am – June 17, 2011 by Financial Samurai
Hi Guys,
Wanted to chime in before I leave the country this weekend and before I forget.
The basic premise ia that anybody can be a Challenger, but not everybody can be a Member. In the beta class, we had sign up questionnaire with around 10 questions one had to answer in order for us to accept them to write a Member Post. I am focused on making our network as best as possible. It's what we all want.
The official Yakezie Member list will always be here http://yakezie.com/personal-fi…..nce-blogs/, despite whatever other list that comes out. As for an official Challenger list, that is much more fluid given it's a challenge. The Google docs is a great resource, but that will always be changing.
As for lower participating Members, we can do a review once every six months. We can also implement a Alexa 250,000 cutoff (allow 50,000 buffer given life happens). People need to understand that there will ALWAYS be differing levels of effort in any organization, and it's impossible for us all to be at the max. We'll figure out an appropriate minimal standard and go forth with plenty of lead time for one to improve. I want us to not forget that we should be having fun & not be overly concerned about what others are doing. Ultimately, if we do our best, we will do great.
Someone find the link to the beta class sign up page if they can. Ill find it later tonight if not.
Thx,
Sam
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6:36 am June 19, 2011
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Hi SQ, I am new here and I want to know more of it before going for any challenge. How can I participate in it?
Jonny
The College Investor said:
The Saved Quarter said:
As I've been going through June Build Your Blog month and visiting all the Yakezie members and challengers, I'm noticing that many of the blogs the list aren't really participating in Yakezie. They don't have a badge, I don't see them on the forums (and I'm a stalker!), and their sites don't appear to be promoting other Yakezie members. I know that this group is all on the honor system, but I'm wondering: at what point are they removed from the list of challengers, and do people get removed from the list of members if they're no longer participating?
I created the list of challengers and members to give us all a quick reference place to go to promote one another, but there are so many of us and I'd rather that list contain only those who are active, so we are best able to spend our reading and promoting time on blogs that are participating.
Should I sent an e-mail to blogs that don't appear to be participating anymore before removing them? Or just remove them and let them add themselves back in if they decide to rejoin?
I sent Sam an email yesterday with some thoughts, but we all know how busy he is. I think we should remove non-participating challengers if we reach out to them and they don't change.
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10:34 am June 19, 2011
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I am with JT in his comment on "what is in it for me" mentality. perhaps the reinforcement/awareness regarding the amount they can capitalize on will increase desire?
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11:09 am June 19, 2011
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Financial Samurai said:
Hi Guys,
Wanted to chime in before I leave the country this weekend and before I forget.
The basic premise ia that anybody can be a Challenger, but not everybody can be a Member. In the beta class, we had sign up questionnaire with around 10 questions one had to answer in order for us to accept them to write a Member Post. I am focused on making our network as best as possible. It's what we all want.
The official Yakezie Member list will always be here http://yakezie.com/personal-fi…..nce-blogs/, despite whatever other list that comes out. As for an official Challenger list, that is much more fluid given it's a challenge. The Google docs is a great resource, but that will always be changing.
As for lower participating Members, we can do a review once every six months. We can also implement a Alexa 250,000 cutoff (allow 50,000 buffer given life happens). People need to understand that there will ALWAYS be differing levels of effort in any organization, and it's impossible for us all to be at the max. We'll figure out an appropriate minimal standard and go forth with plenty of lead time for one to improve. I want us to not forget that we should be having fun & not be overly concerned about what others are doing. Ultimately, if we do our best, we will do great.
Someone find the link to the beta class sign up page if they can. Ill find it later tonight if not.
Thx,
Sam
Thanks for chiming in, Sam. You're right that the Challenger list will continue to change as people come in and out.
I don't expect the same effort from every blogger in the network, but I do expect that members do at least the basic of having a badge and occasionally mentioning the network. I'm not overly concerned about what others are doing but I do think that if you're getting the benefits of the network that they should maintain at least a minimal level of participation. I'd rather put my effort in promoting others into those who are also promoting within the network, so my effort builds all of us.
I don't have any authority over the member list, but I can keep the challenger list up to date. I don't want to remove anyone without a general concensus as to what constitutes failure to participate, so it's not just me arbitrarily dropping people!
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11:46 am June 19, 2011
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I'm am seeing the point of those coming in for the monetary gain, linking to blogs that are more about ad links than about content. I've seen a few coming in lately that have a Yakezie badge but not a mention of the network on their sites and the posts, every one of them, have an ad link. I don't think they should be in the challenger list, since it's clear that they're not "selflessly helping others."
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12:01 pm June 19, 2011
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Penny, what is an ad link? I have ads in my blog. you mean like that?
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1:37 pm June 19, 2011
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Suba, I mean that every single link is to an advertiser, and most are written like sponsored posts with links to products and businesses. Every post is this way.
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